In defence of Russia

Nevermind…being snippy.

OK, drunky.

And, if we’re lucky, he’ll post in it.

Really?

Yeah, that sounds safe, too.

Lack of condemnation is a statement.

Doubling down on the defensiveness is merely corroboration.

Are you posting drunk along with our Komrad too? By all means, keep on making an ass out of yourself rather than actually reading anything I wrote and ascribing strawmen and imagining defensiveness from me.

Type harder, the condemnation from you is so deafening.

Hey moron, In defence of Russia - #1179 by Dissonance.

That’s a stance on what the US should sign (since you think which pieces of paper have been signed is so important), it’s not a stance on the US sending what it does have to Ukraine.

Warning: this post contains no condemnation of any acts of evil. Therefore, this post supports all acts of evil.

So apparently Prigozhin’s army of internet trolls have turned against him:

I guess it could have been posted in the news thread, but I chose to post in the thread made for, presumably, a Russian troll.

From the article:

“They barged in, smashing the front door. It felt like they were busting a brothel, and not the workplaces of patriotic journalists,” said a senior staffer at Ria Fan, the flagship Patriot online outlet, who was present during the search.

The incident on 24 June, described to the Guardian by several Patriot members, marked the start of the Kremlin’s efforts to clamp down on Prigozhin’s vast business empire, after a mutiny that presented the biggest challenge to Vladimir Putin’s 23 years in power.

Bolding mine. Our friend’s last post here was… June 24, 11 days ago. Nothing since. Just sayin’

My favorite bit in the article is about four paragraphs down:

Last week, Putin hinted that the warlord’s finances would be investigated. Speaking in front of his military, Putin said that alongside Wagner, Prigozhin’s catering company Concord received almost $2bn in military contracts between May 2022 and May 2023.

“I hope nobody stole anything, or didn’t steal much, but we’ll sort this out,” Putin added.

Gee, my (ex)buddy the former criminal turned caterer turned PMC owner charged the military $2 billion fucking dollars in catering services in one fiscal year in the middle of a war special military operation.

I sure hope nobody stole ‘much’. Don’t question if the military actually needed much less received $2 billion in catering services for the war. Just look into if anything was stolen, hope it wasn’t or if it was that it wasn’t much. You couldn’t make up a more eloquent example of how damaging corruption in a kleptocracy is in wartime.

In light of our Kamrad’s past obsession with artillery shell numbers, as well as Prigozhin’s famous line of “Shoigu! Gerasimov! Where’s the fucking ammo?” shouted into the camera from in front of rows of Wagner corpses, I decided to do a bit of back of the envelope math. According to here one Russian 152mm artillery shell cost $800 to produce, so if Prigozhin had spent the money on 152mm artillery shells instead of grifting the Russian military, he could have bought 2,500,000 152mm shells to save the lives of his Wagnerite mercenaries and convicts at Bakhmut.

And then where would the Red Army get their little cocktail weenies and cubes of cheddar and pepper Jack, huh, smart guy?

Putin is probably more worried about if he got his correct kickback.

Wagner was set up by Russian security agencies. They needed a front man. Prigozhin was known by some, and was a sweet fall guy. Turned out he was too much of a moron. But for quite a while it worked well. Pay him off by letting him skim. Finance a lot of Wagner via money to Prigozhin through military and other contracts. So the financing by Russian official institutions could be laundered to a very skimpy extent. But maybe enough to keep it looking legal for Russian law.
Wagner was not self sufficient. Prigozhin could not finance it on his own. The contracts were a money laundering scheme. Of course Prigozhin and others in Wagner made money in other illegal, immoral ways. Probably mostly in Africa. But I don’t think much of that filtered down to the rank and file or operating expenses.
But when Wagner ended up operating on what Russia now considered its territory. The legal problems kicked in hard. So Wagner had to sign up to the regular Russian military.
By that time Prigozhin had come to believe his own rantings. Probably had some coercive whispers in his ear as well. The man who would be King.
But 24 hours later…
That fart has blown away in the wind.
Wagner is integrated into the Russian military. Russian government and society at all levels as well as most of Wagner, said F off Prigozhin.
But now what does Russia use for foreign adventures that require some firepower at arms length? Maybe they create a subset of Wagner? Most sign contracts with Russian MOD. But some are peeled off into a new separate military arm? Belarus is not Russia, so maybe a Wagner spin off will operate out of there? Could be a convenient situation. Supply center in Belarus. Feeding the official Wagner as well as the dark Wagner. Money and resources funnelled into Belarus for various reasons, ending up as Wagner support. Offshore your mercenaries.

You don’t include the obvious cost of building a factory and sourcing more material for his Wagner only shells. Do you suppose he could somehow just go shopping for them on the open market? Production is already spoken for. The West is having a hard time getting supplies for their guns.

Oh I almost forgot. He would also have to buy a whole lot of artillery pieces to fire those shells.

I am curious.

Do most of you believe that Russia is going to blow up a nuclear power plant that they have been in control of for about a year now? ZNPP? That Ukraine forces have regularly attacked.

Most of you seem to swallow whole the terribly slanted and nonsensical stuff a lot of western media spews out.