In practical terms, "refusing to obey illegal orders" as it might play out in the real world

This event has been covered in lots of places, including elsewhere on this board, so I’ll just quote Krugman’s statement in his Substack today:

On one side, the Trump administration is sinking small boats that it claims, without evidence, are smuggling drugs — and according to the Washington Post, Pete Hegseth, the self-styled Secretary of War, has personally ordered at least one follow-up strike to kill the survivors. A working group of former JAGs, that is, members of the military’s legal branch, issued a statement declaring that it

unanimously considers both the giving and the execution of these orders, if true, to constitute war crimes, murder, or both.

I don’t know about y’all, but the words “kill the survivors” makes my blood run cold.

What could/should have been the response of the crew members to that order at the time it was given to them? I’m not familiar with the specific details of how the whole episode might have looked or how it might have unfolded, but I’m guessing some of you would know or at least be able to speculate knowledgeably. If those ordered to shoot refused to do so right then, what would likely have happened to them at the time and later? I’m guessing someone in the crew would have carried out the order anyway. Would the one refusing have been put under arrest at the time and when they landed, be met by military police and locked up?

This youtube video just crossed my feed. It touches on some of the questions you ask, and I would like to know as well.

It is alleged that the Admiral in command received an oral order from Hegseth to finish the survivors, and he carried it out. I hope the admiral gets a chance to explain his actions in some formal legal setting. Whether to a congressional committee or a court martial.

Thanks for that link.

Damn. Just damn…

Hugh Thompson Jr. is an good starting point.

He disobeyed orders, to follow his understanding of the rules of war - and was very much vilified by the Army.

Seemly the case with most whistleblowers in any organization.

Hugh Thompson Jr. - Wikipedia .

In my way of thinking that describes a true hero.

Seems there very few similar in the upper ranks of the Department of ‘War’