In the long run, does the Tea Party do more to help Dems or Pubs?

When I gave up my land line and switched to a cell phone, I saved money, even before considering long distance. Now, there are probably landline providers that don’t rip off their customers as much as Qwest, but a cell phone isn’t necessarily more expensive. This is especially true if you get one of the “recharge” ones where you buy minutes in advance, and then don’t use very many minutes.

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I take some of this back, after having thought about this while watching the Sunday talk shows. Looks like the TP will cost the GOP the Senate, but will probably help them gain the House. Given the choice, the GOP is better off winning the House. They can already thwart the Senate with the minority position they’re in, and that will only get easier with the gains they get in a few weeks.

But I’d be surprised if we’re still talking about the TP after 2012. They’ll either be fully absorbed into the GOP, or they will fade away like Ross Perot and his little experiment.

Not IME. It is about a wash for basic service, and the cell provides mobile utility that the land line does not.

Cell minutes are more, but the fixed charges tend to be less, so if you don’t spend a lot of time on the phone a cell can be cheaper…much cheaper for the prepaid versions.

You probably can run a cell bill up easier than a land line with texting plans, high minute limits, etc.

I have a land line with the bare minimum level of service. That means I can only call for like 3 blocks in any direction w/o paying a toll charge. I don’t even think I get unlimited incoming calls. But I pay around $15/mo including surcharges and taxes (definitely less than $20).

The Tea Party benefits the GOP because it causes the Democrats to say things like this. It is always an advantage for your enemies to underestimate you.

If the Democrats have convinced themselves that the issues the Tea Partiers raise are not real, so much the better. Liberal blacks already vote Democratic; calling the Tea Party racist is wasted effort. For everyone else (by which I don’t mean the SDMB, I mean the mainstream middle), the ballooning deficit and general incompetence in the White House and Congress are the issue, not what color Obama’s inept ass might be.

Obama and Co. are on track to increase the federal debt by more than every other President from Washington thru Bush put together. You wanna claim he is only hated because he is black? Go ahead.

The Tea Party is good for the country, because it focuses attention on issues that are important. Of course the Dems want to change the subject - “it’s all Bush’s fault” is a couple of years past its shelf date and the elections next month are shaping up to be a serious debacle.

That “hopie changie” thing isn’t working out so hot. Obama isn’t a Keynesian; he’s just a naive big spender with a level of success commensurate with his lack of experience. Time for the grown-ups to clean up the mess again.

Regards,
Shodan

Friend Shodan, it seems to have escaped you that your grownups created this mess. Obama’s simply using the tools at his disposal to try to fix what your guys have broken. I’m not saying he’s doing a bang-up job; he’d have had to stick to his convictions, or at least his rhetoric to do that, and even I am disappointed that he’s swung so far to the right and has seemingly forgotten why we voted for him in the first place. However, none of this dismisses, discounts, or even addresses my point that the Tea Party’s primary motivation is racism wrapped in a gooey, saccharin nebulousness called fiscal responsibility.

Like I said, this excuse is a bit past its ‘Best Used By’ date.

It addresses it by dismissing it. The real issues, and the main reason the Tea Party is getting traction, have nothing to do with race.

But I am pleased to encourage you to think so, and base your strategies on the notion.

Regards,
Shodan

If it’s all about fiscal responsibility, then where was the TP when W cut taxes at the start of a war?!

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Like I said, this excuse is a bit past its ‘Best Used By’ date.
It addresses it by dismissing it. /QUOTE]

Explain to me please how Obama created the recession, and how came up with the initial idea for the TARP funds.

Back then it was un-American to question the President’s actions. Now it’s un-American not to. Didn’t you get the memo?

Just my opinion but as a general rule, conservatives are far more liekly to work within existing hierarchies than liberals so while a Nader liberal might vote for a third party and damn the consequences, a tea party conservative is more likely to try and get their guy nominated but vote for the Republican rather than a third party conservative option.

Just my opinion

Well, its not ONLY because he’s black but its part of it.

And the Republican response is more tax cuts that dwarf the spending cuts they propose.

The ONLY issue is the economy. I don’t know if we can blame Bush (it was Republican ideology generally) for the mess we are in today but we are on a much better trajectory under obama than we were under Bush.

I thought that’s what the Democrats have been doing. Is you memory so bad that you don’t remember the mess we were in 2 years ago?

Well, we just called them Republicans back then. Now anyone who is still a Republican but wants to disown responsibility for Bush is a teabagger.

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Well it all starts with his muslim indoctrination after he was born in Kenya.

I’d rather take a group with 5% racist, than one that relies on 95% of blacks to back the black candidate. I’d be real careful who you call racist.

Why? Got rope?

Was that the same memo that said while W was President, protesting the government was the highest form of patriotism, but under Obama, protesting the government is racist, extreme, fringe, radical, dangerous, etc.?

If you define “better trajectory” as doubling the deficit, increasing the national debt by more than all other administrations in history put together, increasing health care costs, driving insurers out of the market, rising unemployment, and doing nothing about the coming crash in entitlement spending, then sure - we’re sitting pretty.

Regards,
Shodan

If the man had no hope of fixing or bettering this nation, why even take office? He had to know that the blame would land squarely on his shoulders at some point. The blame of fiscal responsibility (on W)went to the wayside when he started proposing his health care bill prior to fixing the economy…