In the MCU, what is a god?

Even if Disney buys Sony, Amy Pascal still has personal rights on distribution of Spider-Man and related properties that she negotiated while she was Chairman of Sony Columbia Pictures. She was the stumbling block Marvel getting the rights to use Spider-Man in Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame, and was behind the effort to end the agreement to allow the MCU to continue to feature the Tom Holland Spider-Man character.

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Loki : Enough! You are, all of you are beneath me! I am a god, you dull creature, and I will not be bullied by…

The Hulk : Puny god.

In the MCU, what is a god?

Well, I blush to explain… :blush: :sunglasses: :mage:t2: :genie: :zap: :comet: :fire:

What about One-Above-All?

So hopes to stream the Spidey movies on services I already have … look bleak?

Note that the gods of Asgard have a god or gods themselves - Thor refers to an “Allfather” on several occasions, and he’s not talking about his dad.

I’m pretty sure that that is exactly who he is referring to.

It’s a much more formal title, one that Odin’s father also held, and one that Thor himself may hold one day, but it is not referring to any being outside the Asgardian royal family.

Unless you own a Sony smart TV or are willing to buy it on Amazon, yes.

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That show is iirc specifically non-canon, that clearly has to be some sort of alt-reality.

I thought that the Fantastic Four are also owned by someone else? Or has this changed?

They were owned by Fox, which Disney bought. X-Men also came with that deal.

How does that even happen? She works for Sony, but in the negotiations she ends up with distribution? Is that common? I thought all that crap was over when she quit/got fired from Sony.

You mean the Loki miniseries on Disney+ right now? No, that’s entirely canon, like WandaVision and Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Nope.

It is not unusual for a studio head to get a producer or executive producer credit on some number of movies even if their involvement was minimal, but Pascal apparently negotiated a deal into her contract giving her broad production rights over Sony’s Spider-Man franchise independent of her position at SPMPG. Since that is basically the main revenue stream supporting all of the other films in development by Pascal Pictures, I can’t see her agreeing to sell the rights back to Marvel for any price they would be willing to pay for rights to a single character.

Yeah, the Netflix shows are of questionable canonicity and while the Marvel Televsion/ABC shows (Agents of SHIELD, Agent Carter) are notionally canon, featuring as they do characters from the films played by the same actors and referencing back to the films in many ways, Marvel Studios has essentially ignored them in terms of any continuity or impact. The Disney+ limited run series, however, are produced by the same people making the films and are intended to explicitly tie into and set up future film projects, and are basically a recognition of both the dominance of the steaming content model over traditional film distribution and the canvas that such longer formats offer for narrative storytelling.

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Jack Kirby. Or possibly Stan Lee. The very very tippy-top of the power tree in Marvel. And of course Loki will always refer to himself as a God. His ego demands it.

A Glock? They have “gods” fighting alongside a dude with a bow and arrow.

There are things in the comics that muddy things up. Ragnarok is seen as a cyclic event. A whole different crew of Norse gods were involved in a climactic battle. They had familiar names and roles but looked different. Thor had red hair and a beard. Most of them were killed. Those that survived merged somehow (don’t remember how) into the Odin we know. The destruction of Asgard was seen as a bright star in the sky over Bethlehem (I wish I made that up). That was back in the early 80s.

“Pretending to need this guy really brings the team together.”

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I’m so stealing that phrase.

Allfather is literally one of the names of Odin.