That should be ‘Throw’ - It’s early, and my mind is elsewhere.
I also really liked the sudden appearance of the comfortable, silk-sheeted boudoir in the Fortress of Solitude.
Doctor Who- the Paul McGann TV movie introduced the idea that the Doctor is half human. Silly, silly idea. It’s been ignored (so far) in the new series.
True enough, but I’m willing to give some leniency to them on that score - after all, if he sensed a pressing need for that, he could just zip off at superspeed and find it. Where does one even BUY a giant constricting illusionary S-shield?
Duh … Target.
Oh, no. After all the ice cold walls, and sharp spikes all over the place, suddenly he has a beautiful nice little bed. Uh-uh. I’m not buying it.
What about the thing where they just magically take his powers away? AND THEN GIVE THEM BACK! shakes fist
And then take someone else’s powers away, too! Zod’s no less.
Ba-dum-bum. Good one.
I dunno, Anaamika, the S-shield was the real mind-blower for me. Everything else - I can accept, in some tortured-logic fashion.
Actually, in the 70s & 80s, Stark had a number of very realistic androids (LMDs, they were called, Life Model Decoys), which he would use from time to time to impersonate him (as Stark) while he was present as Iron Man. That said, at least two of his close friends–Bethany Cabe and James Rhodes–figured out that he and Iron Man were the same person simply by body language.
I recall that. I also recall Lois (who at the time didn’t know the Big Secret) missing a very obvious clue that he didn’t USE the weights. On a visit to Kent’s apartment, she picked one up and was surprised that it was no heavier than the ones she used (and given that she clearly aims for tone rather than bulk, her dumbbells were probably in the 5-10 pound range). Clark commented in a thought balloon that, because of his super-strength, he couldn’t tell the difference between a five-pound weight and a fifty-pounder (or, possibly, that he didn’t really know what weight a normal person would need to bulk up).
Oh! All right. That’s the season that I have literally seen 5 episodes of. So I’ll take your word for it.
Isn’t this more “breaking the fourth wall” than dismissing a canon? I know firsthand that the Captain Underpants series of books does the same thing on a regular basis.
“Didn’t Melvin warn us not to use the time machine two days in a row?”
“Yeah, back on page 17, second paragraph, starting with the second sentence.”
“What did he say?”
“I don’t know, I’m bad with details.”
I realized this morning that due to his close association with SHIELD (Supreme Headquarters International Espionage Law enforcement Division) Stark probably had access to LMDs.
During the time Rhodes was Iron Man, several long time Avengers noticed IM was acting differently. Tigra finally says ‘Tony, what’s wrong?’. Rhodes didn’t feel comfortable revealing his identity yet. So he just says ‘I don’t want to to tell you my name yet. But as you can see-’ he removes one of his gauntlets to show that he’s an African American ‘I’m NOT Tony Stark.’
Re The Simpsons
Any attempt to establish Simpsons continuity or canon is ludicrous. Smithers used to be black. When Krusty is arrested, we see him without make up and learn he is illiterate. When Homer goes in for a bypass, we learn that Krusty doesn’t wear make up. When Krusty fakes his own death, the make up he wore to change his appearance washes off revealing his real face (pale, red nose etc) underneath.
Not including Halloween episodes-
The Simpsons have been in a plane under attack by Godzilla, while Rodan and Gamera fight.
At the animation expo, the Great Gazoo pops up and talks to Bart and Lisa.
Jockeys are actually elf people who live underground in a fiberglass tree by a chocolate stream.
Proffessor Frink owns a seemingly glitch free flying motorcycle.
During the Deadly meteor shower, Frink sees an alien.
The Springfield airforce base keeps an alien prisoner.
Maggie keeps a rifle hidden in her crib and is a sharpshooter.
Dr Nick Riviera successfully attached a severed arm and leg to the wrong places. But, both limbs have full function and sensation.
Homer is thoroughly out of shape-except in the wacking day episode when he performs expert martial arts and flawless backflips.
A book in the Simpson’s garage is capable of invoking demons.
Major League Baseball is watching us all, pretty much all the time.
I don’t remember Stark’s having access to LMDs or using them but I dipped in and out of following Iron Man so I could have missed it. If he did have access to LMDs, it was most likely terminated after SHIELD bought controlling interest in Stark International to try to force the company to start producing weapons again (Stark personally owned the patents to the weapons and most everything else SI made so without his cooperation the company was pretty much crippled).
Otto
I don’t know. After taking over Stark International (why the government didn’t just seize it as vital to national security I don’t know), I can see Nick Fury still providing Stark with LMDs both as a gesture of good will and because as far as Nick is concerned Tony should be protected in the interests of national security which would include hiding his secret identity.
Back To The OP
When John Byrne tried rewriting the history of the Hulk, it was so hated that even before the series finished the writer of another Hulk series explained that Byrne’s work wasn’t canon but just a comic published in the fictional world of Marvel. We see Rick Jones reading Byrne’s series and saying ‘Skrulls? You gotta be kidding.’
Re Secret Identities
Starbrand dealt with this. “The White Event” has recently given some people superpowers. Starbrand shows up at a comic book convention in a mask and costume so that fans can chat with a real superhero. One of the writers at the convention points out the stupidy of glasses, a domino mask, etc hiding a secret identity. He then rattles off ‘You’re about 6 feet, 180 pounds, white male, blue eyes, judging by the bulge in your mask you’ve got a bug shnozz, and going by that accent you were raised in or around Pittsburgh. That narrows it down from “he could be anyone” to “he could be one of about a hundred guys.” .’
Nah…Shop Smart. Shop at S-Mart!
Sigh. Don’t geek out on me here. The same basic theory applies to virtually every superhero with a secret identity. If it makes you feel better substitute Batman, Captain America, Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Spider-Man, Superman, Wonder Woman, etc. Face facts, if superheroes were real, we’d have threads on this board trying to guess secret identities.
Okay, I’ve been giggling about this for quite a few minutes, trying to imagine how those threads would read. It’s much funnier in my head right now, but I’m sure CG will come along shortly and actually type it out for us.
OH? Oh. Uh… no pressure or anything… heh heh. Taps the microphone Is this thing on? fidgets with tie Uhh…
We already do. Although I guess we haven’t had a “Cecil is Ed Zotti” thread for a while…
I seem to recall that it was Tigra, specifically, who knew that Iron Man and Tony were typically the same person; Hawkeye, Mockingbird, and Wonder Man didn’t know his secret identity yet. This was in the WCA miniseries, and later Hawkeye was vexed to discover that he had gotten a second-stringer rather than the original Iron Man.
God, I’m such a putz to remember this. :wally