A man in our neighborhood had a wife who was abusive. He was always being teased by the other men, who knew why his face was scratched, or his eye was black and blue.
He was a domestic abuse victim, and had the shoe been on the other foot, no doubt, he would have been in jail.
She was never reported, partly, I suspect, because he did not want to look like a wimp, and eventually they divorced.
It was a form of discrimination in a way, as I think back to the situation.
Any abused woman in the neighborhood, was treated like a victim, and assisted by everyone.
The sofa is for breastfeeding. Seriously. And it used to be used for diaper changes as well as breastfeeding, until they started putting those swing down tables in restrooms. Speaking of which, why don’t more men’s rooms have diaper changing stations in them?
There’s the general perception that men “think with their dick” and can be tricked by anyone of the female persuasion. Of course, there’s the general perception that women are “emotional creatures” and cannot be trusted to think logically, so that one’s kind of a wash.
Are you not an American? I ask because the US is the only first-world country that federally mandates 0 days of paid maternity leave, and until the family leave act was enacted less than twenty years ago, there wasn’t even any federal law protecting jobs for unpaid leave after childbirth, either.
I was exaggerating for effect, but the point is they get a nice long vacation.
Yeah, unpaid time off to take care of a child. What a fucking awesome vacation!
You’re playing this thread for yuks aren’t you? Your posts really are just humor, right? Right?
I wonder if these things stem from patriarchal ideas about women, rather than misandry. Views that women are naturally better parents and sexually passvie “victims” of aggressive male sexuality are not espoused by feminism, or if they are then it’s a warped feminism, and couldn’t be called such. Men are disadvantaged because of these ideas and the results of their practical application, and I think they’re justifications for mens’ rights groups, but my problem with MRAs is that they view themselves of victims of feminism, when really they’re restricted by the patriarchy. MRA groups and feminism have a lot in common, but you would probably never get either group to recognise it.
Even if it was paid, looking after a child for the first two years of its life can hardly be considered a ‘vacation’.
Yeah my bro and SIL pretty much went broke when they had their kids, with SIL’s maternity leaves. The FMLA makes sure she had a job to go back to but it sure as hell doesn’t make sure she gets paid.
Not a single one. Because while there are a few area where men are legitimately discriminated against every single instance of those exists because of sexism perpetrated against women. For example, yes men do get the shaft in family court but this happens because of the “benevolent” sexist idea that women make better mothers and that parenting is the place of women.
If men’s rights activists had actual sense (and a real agenda that wasn’t actually based on misogyny) they’d be feminists.
By which you mean, crimes against pretty middle or upper class white women are given the most media attention?
Oh come on, a wife in a vengeful streak with good lawyer can absolute destroy a husband and father’s life with little recourse. That is about as bad as it gets in terms on total domination because most men don’t want to lose their kids, their house, or their wife yet she can make it happen a whim even if she decides to have an affair and have the other man move in. Even the threat of such a thing a powerful tool of servitude on its own and all men with any sense know that.
You don’t don’t get to say that victims of this should just call themselves feminists and be done with it. It is a perfectly legitimate issue on its own and they are not obligated to adopt any other philosophy to get it corrected. Besides, the push to move any men’s rights initiatives into ‘feminism’ is just plain retarded from a marketing and practical standpoint.
I learned a long time ago that as a white male in The U.S. with means, I am playing the game of life on its lowest difficulty setting. There is no other group I switch circumstances with but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t legitimate issues that someone in my group could bring up legitimately.
What do you mean by destroying his life, exactly? I wouldn’t dispute that the playing field is tilted toward mom in a family court setting, but I think you and almost every other poster in this thread have cranked the dial on the rhetoric about six turns too high. I’d like to hear what you think the system is doing to these men.
When my wife needs something heavy moved, does she go to our 10yo daughter?
NOOOOOOOO!
When the grass needs cutting, does she do it?
NOOOOOOOO!
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I wanted to mention–I’ve been a cashier, I’m female, and yes, I have had to get carts from the hot parking lot on a summer day. I was sweating my butt off too, btw. Long khaki pants because they hadn’t told me I was going to be getting carts on those days. Great fun.
But as for the topic itself:
Sometimes it is more difficult for men to get certain jobs. I had a friend who wanted to be a nurse, and nearly everyone did a double take when he announced it.
Divorce that entitled bitch!
Hell no, that is exactly what she wants you to do and the surest way to lose everything. Do what I did and spray paint the lawnmower pink, snack her on the ass and tell her to get to work.
When I was in grad school, I lived in a small house with three other people, all of them women. You wanna know how many spiders I killed that year? I don’t even think that they were scared of spiders, they just wanted to troll me.
I wanted to second this. All my liberal friends were pissed at me that I voted for Reagan in 1980 until I pointed out that Carter had required me to register for the draft.
why should a company be obligated to pay someone to not work for up to 2 years?
Where are you getting this 2 years thing from, because the poster who originally threw it out there was engaging in obvious hyperbole.
As for why it is advantageous to have companies provide paid leave for parents who have just had children, probably because it’s socially beneficial to have families not go bankrupt trying to take care of their newborns.