In which I am reminded of how totally K-Mart sucks

The backstory: my wife and I use melatonin as a sleep aid, but we don’t need the heavy stuff. Even though you can buy it in 3mg, 5mg, and 10mg strengths, we just need the 300 mcg strength, 1/10 the concentration of the next level up. 3 mg at night would probably leave me comatose half the next day.

And though it’s been getting harder to find in the stores where we normally shop, there’s always been somewhere that we might otherwise find ourselves at where we could buy it. Six or seven weeks ago, I stopped into the K-Mart in Prince Frederick, MD in between doctor’s appointments, noticed they had it, and bought a couple of jars of it.

It had been the first time in years that I’d been in a K-Mart, and my general reactions were: (1) it still sucks, but (2) they’ve got melatonin in 300 mcg strength.

So today, our errands were going to take us right by that same K-Mart, so I had my wife stop there so I could buy some more.

The list price was $8.99 a bottle, which is a bit steep, but it was buy-one, get-one-free. Which would have been reasonable. Except that, in the 3300 mcg strength, they had exactly one bottle. So I grabbed the bottle and took it to the register, figuring that I’d probably have to ask the cashier to call the manager, but the manager would have the good sense to not charge me full price for the bottle.

It’s 3:30 on a Thursday afternoon, but there’s a serious line at each of the two open registers. (Don’t ask me where these people come from at this time of day, or why they’re shopping in K-Mart.) Do they open up another register? Not on your life. Ten or twelve minutes later, I finally get to the front of one of the lines, and explain the situation to the cashier.

He calls over the first-level manager, who offers me 10% off. I explain to her that I’d love to buy two bottles for $8.99, but I can only buy one, so I should really get it at half the two-bottle price.

I mean, I know they do the buy-1-get-1-free deal to get you to buy two when you’d normally just buy one, but that isn’t an option. No sales technique in the world will get me to buy a bottle that they don’t have - never mind the fact that if they had them, I’d stock up and buy four or six bottles. So there’s no reason for them to not sell me the last bottle for $4.50, other than sheer idiocy.

But sure enough, idiocy is their game. As I’m headed out, the second-level manager comes over, and she backs up the first-level manager: 10% is as much discount as I’m going to get. Two bottles for $8.99, one for $8.09. (Again, this would make sense if they only had a second bottle to sell me.) But she volunteers to look in the back to see if there’s another bottle.

As she heads to the back of the store, she’s not moving very fast, but at this point, I figure if she’s doing this for me, the least I should do is stick around. But it takes another ten or twelve minutes for her to get back…triumphantly holding a bottle of 5 mg strength melatonin.

I tell her that’s 20 times the strength of the stuff I was trying to buy, she says that’s all there is in the back, and I leave. >25 minutes wasted, and boy howdy, I’ve learned my lesson. Just all-around suckitude - no effort made to do something about the lines (despite two managers being on hand) at a time of day when lines should be minimal, either unreasonableness on the part of the store managers, or insufficient flexibility granted to them by the chain (all the same to me, really), and a bit of inattentiveness and stupidity at glacial speed to put the cherry on top.

Like I said, it had been several years since the last time I darkened the door of a K-Mart when I found myself inside one several weeks back. It’ll be quite a while before I make the same mistake again. At this point, their main accomplishment seems to be to make Wally World look good by comparison.

I was born in 1960 and I don’t remember a time when Kmart didn’t suck.

There’s a Kmart about 2 miles from my house. It’s never empty but never busy; never clean but not that dirty; shelves are under stocked but never denuded; employees rarely helpful but never rude. It think it will be there for eons, just in a dreary stasis.

seal_cleaner, I’d swear you are describing the Kmart near me except I’m in southeast Missouri

That must be the Kmart business model. That’s exactly like the Kmart near my house, and I live in Tennessee.

I swear that they have a rule that if any line has fewer than five people in it they must close a register, having watched it happen.

Say what you will about WalMart, and there’s lots to say, K-Mart is and has always been worse. Much worse.

I want to pit the assholes that use mcg for microgram (not a reference to the OP, but some strange lovechild of the FDA and pharmacists).

Drives me batty, it does.

Some day I will pit the pharmacies for ruining all the hard work we do on the drug development, manufacturing, and distribution side.

I don’t understand this rant.
Is 10 minutes in a checkout queue a really long time? I wish it were always that short!!

10 minutes for somebody to walk from the cashier in the front, to the store-room in the back, access what is most likely some form of locked / control access storeroom, search for a specific item, walk back to the cashier is a long time?

The only thing I can feel some sympathy for is “only” a 10% discount. At being offered 10% you could take it or leave it - why the rant?

They don’t do rainchecks in your neck of the woods, Rufus?

I fell unconscious halfway through the OP so I apologize if not all my facts are correct:

  1. You already know that Kmart sucks, you go there anyway, and they live up to your low expectations, yet you pit them anyway?

  2. All over Melatonin. Of which the EXACT amount you wanted, they were out of stock. So you waited 10 minutes in line and then argued ANOTHER ten minutes with the staff over $4.50? Why not just take the deal they offered on a stronger strength and chop the pill down? Or take the 10% off deal? The deal is buy on get one free-----they didn’t have the second in stock, so your fucked. I know most stores will give you 50% off but Kmart didn’t want to. So walk out. And never shop there again. Which you should have since you already knew it was going to suck before you went in.

  3. Also your fault for expecting a Kmart cashier/employee to understand the milligram differences in any product, especially Melatonin, and what your specific needs are. The last I checked few M.D.s work at Kmart.

  4. Perhaps if you insist on using Melatonin, and unregulated drug by the FDA by the way (with the exception of melatonin based Circadin) I would suggest you speak with your doctor and find a more reliable source of this widely untested supplement and find a more reliable dosage source than fucking Kmart.:rolleyes:

  5. Finally, you seem like a nice person, but if I was held up 10 minutes in line at fucking Kmart by someone nit picking the cashier and then management over ONE GODDAMNED BOTTLE of friggin Melatonin, I’d be inclined throw my red kMart shopping cart at your head. Im sure the Kmart employees were rolling their eyes at what a pain in the ass you were as well.

Wrong complaint over the wrong product at the wrong place. Sorry, but gotta give this one of these:

In the middle of the work day, with few people in the store? Yes, it’s long. If I’m in a store on a Saturday afternoon with the rest of the world, I take long lines for granted. But at off-peak times, it should pretty much be grab n’ go. And at most places, it is.

I was doing this when the second-level manager came into the picture. I was halfway from the register to the door.

If she’d said, “I’ll look in the back for you, but it’ll take a few minutes,” I would have said, “never mind, bye.” But after confirming that I would in fact have to pay 10% off the two-bottle price for only one bottle, she said she would check in the back to see if there was another bottle and headed on back before I had a chance to reply (I didn’t even get a chance to say, “if you find any, bring me half a dozen bottles, OK?”), and at that point, my manners unfortunately kicked in; I couldn’t leave while someone was off trying to help me, right?

It is when you hadn’t actually asked someone to go look for you, and when you weren’t planning to have to wait any extra time.

In retrospect, I should have just gone and not waited for her. But you don’t always make the right calls on the spot.

Apparently not at that K-Mart.

I figured, its being the middle of the afternoon, before even the early-bird Federal workers leave their desks in time to get out this far, I could grab what melatonin they had, and be out of there in a couple of minutes, largely unaffected by the suckitude of K-Mart.

I didn’t argue the second ten minutes. I WAITED for the manager to return from the back - an errand that I hadn’t requested, and wasn’t really given a chance to veto, other than by walking out of the store after she was already headed to the back. (As I said, maybe I should have done this anyway. You live, you learn.)

And no, it wasn’t the EXACT amount that they didn’t have. I’d have taken pretty much any amount they had in even-number quantities, or if I’d been able to pay considerably less than the two-bottle price for that last remaining bottle.
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The next level up was 3 mg = 10*300 mcg. Chopping a pill in half is awkward enough, but tenths??

Exactly. I figured that, on this at least, K-Mart would try to act like a normal store.

Again, I was already doing this when the second-level manager came over.

No, actually I didn’t. Like I said, I’d been in there several weeks before, and bought some melatonin. And hadn’t waited very long to buy it. So I figured I could do the same thing again - that I’d be able to get in and out without having to deal with K-Mart’s general suckitude in this specific situation.

Well, when someone’s on her way to the back to find another bottle before you have a chance to say yes or no, my only choice was to wait or not wait.

Bolding mine. Double rolleyes back atcha for this. It’s not like K-Mart makes its own melatonin. It just sells a few national brands. You knew this already, right? Seriously, where IS this coming from?

So you didn’t read the OP, and you’re going to dive in this deep? Holy shit.

No, I waited in line for 10 minutes or more. Then when I got to the register, I asked if I could have the last remaining bottle at half the price they were charging for two bottles. The first-level manager was there in less than a minute, and then I was out of the line and headed for the door. When the second-level manager came over, the cashier was already serving the next customer, and he continued to serve other customers while I waited on the second-level manager to come back from the back of the store.

If you’re going to criticize me for holding up other customers, it would be nice if you knew I’d done so first. You’re sure assuming a lot for having only read part of the OP before I bored you too much to continue reading - but apparently not too much for you to reply on the basis of what you thought I must’ve said or done.

3 mcg of melatonin sounds like a homeopathic dose, honestly. It’s good that it helps you and your wife sleep, but you’d probably get the same result with a green M&M. I’ve also never heard of a store that will give you 50% off when you only buy one half of the deal. This isn’t a mom and pop store with price discretion. It’s a giant chain with corporate sales policies. People who work at KMart will all soon be unemployed. They have enough problems without customers making weird demands.

I think that’s the general look of K-marts. The K-mart outside Jacksonville, Florida is the exact same model of drear as the K-mart near my town outside of Boston.

They may even ship the employees to the store along with the fixtures.

I’d seriously question whether 3 mg of melatonin would have that much more effect than 0.3 mg, given the level of evidence for melatonin as a sleep aid, the fact that common suggested dosages range from 0.3 mg to 10 mg per night, and a big question about whether the brand(s) that K-Mart carries even contain what the label claims (there was a considerable whoop-de-do recently about deficiencies involving herbal supplements - and yes, I know melatonin is not an herb).

But indeed, K-Mart sucks.

I imagine that would be the case if that’s what we were doing, but we’re taking 100 times that dose.

It’s the norm, in my experience. When a store says “3 for $5,” they rarely mean you’ve got to buy 3 to get that price; usually you can get one for $1.67. But it seems to result in more people buying 3 than would otherwise be the case.

At any rate, even most big chains give their managers $4.49 worth of price discretion.

Hell, if I’d thought about it, I could have treated it like a commitment on their part - “buy one, get one free” - “OK, I’ve bought one, you said that if I bought one, I’d get one free, where the fuck is it? Hand it over!” I suspect that at that point, I’d have gotten at least a coupon for a freebie the next time they had it in stock. (Of course, that would have necessitated yet another visit to K-Mart…:eek::p**)

Of course Kmart sucks. They’re owned by Sears Holdings. I have talked about my problems with Sears Outlet in another thread.

Kmart sucked long before they merged with Sears, though. Maybe they suck even more now. I don’t think I’ve been to a Kmart since 2005, and if they’re worse than Walmart, I don’t see why I would want to…

  1. K-Mart sucks as a given.

  2. OP is being a bitchy little prig worthy of all the staring judgmental hateful eyes of those stuck in the queue behind him.

  3. ???

  4. Profit

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