Inaccessible handicap access

What, in a bar? Unthinkable!

I totally agree that your complaint is valid. And it’s a good idea to file a complaint with the ADA, and to tell the manager’s manager that the manager is a fucking idiot.

That said, go to another bar. You really shouldn’t continue giving them your business.

Yes.

Wait, this is jamie??? Was there a name change I missed?

Yes. He wanted to become more anonymous or something.

The subject matter didn’t tip you off?

Look, I’m obviously not the only one who is interested enough in such matters to post about it. This thread is discussing the exact subject matter I am discussing. I didn’t want to resurrect an old zombie thread, so I just told the story in a fresh thread.

Two weeks isn’t a zombie, zombies are several months old at least.

Ok. I felt it deserved it’s own thread, given that the other accessibility thread was no longer active.

I wasn’t trying to offend, I’m just saying that I tend to associate certain subjects with certain posters. If a name I didn’t recognize posted an OP about something that happened in Thailand, I’d probably assume Siam Sam had changed his name.

Oh, my bad. I’m just a little accustomed to more snarky responses, so I read your as such.

So I take it you took the lift to the second floor, was the upstairs loo up to snuff?

I was recently at the hospital waiting on an outpatient person. When I went to use the rest room there was a big sign encouraging people of all sizes and mobility that the handicap stalls were there to accommodate anyone who wishes to use them. I found that very refreshing, but it puzzled me as to why there was a sign - maybe to avoid calls to the complaint desk about overuse of the handicap stall?

I hope you don’t mind the hijack, but this reminds me of something. My office was on the 9th floor of a 12 storey building. I had been anointed with the job of being fire marshall for my wing. This meant that during a fire drill (or a fire, for that matter) I was responsible for making sure that everyone along my corridor was up and down the stairs since the elevators were automatically turned off. Oh yes, there was an occasional false alarm, especially during final exams. One year a nearby office was occupied by a guy in a wheel chair. Naturally, I enquired what I was supposed to do about him, with the elevators off. Several months later (!) the answer came that he was supposed to be carried down by four able-bodied people. Down 8 storeys? Yes. Where do I find four able-bodied people willing to do this. No answer. Fortunately, he wasn’t in when we had a fire-drill.

What is the solution? I would say keep one elevator operating for anyone in that situation, but this apparently is not allowed.

Yes, that is what adds even more nonsense to this story. The bathroom itself was designed to be handicap-accessible-I had no trouble using it once I was up on the second floor. Yet the only way to get to the “accessible” bathroom was to be carried up stairs; even though a perfectly usable elevator was nearyby. :mad:

here really is not a good solution. You might consider pointing out the OSHA guidlines to HR about how people in health care facilities are to handle people, you never pick the patient up without assistance, and you never heft the patient around in the wheelchair … and by assistance, I mean mechanical assistance [unless it is to shift them around in bed, and frequently even then you use mechanical assistance…]

<and the solution HR had in my last job was leave the elevators on and let the gimp [me] go down in it because in a real fire there is no way that hauling a gimp down however many flights of stairs was safe for the carriers or the gimp and there was more chance of injury from the transport than there was in evacuating the gimp in the elevator>