International laundry

Oooo Oooo… I just remember other “they take it for granted” things.

The standard color for toilet paper when I lived in France was pink (but a muddy kind of pink rather than pastel pink). You could buy white in some places, but it wasn’t always easy to find. This was only 15 years ago, but I can’t guarantee it hasn’t changed.

Also, paper money was often bundled by banks using straight pins, rather than rubber bands or paper strips. The pins were stuck through the watermark area of the bill, and it wasn’t at all unusual to have money with pinholes in it. However, the paper money was thinner than US paper money, in addition to being different sizes and colors based on denomination. To the French, it was quite logical and normal that larger bills should be on larger pieces of paper, and each denomination had a different color, making it very easy to distinguish a 100F bill from a 500F bill. They could not understand why US bills are all the same size and color.

It’s also standard in most European countries to have the toilet in a separate room from the bathtub and sink. (In the US, they are usually all in the same room, although larger homes may include “half-baths”, which include only a toilet and sink, in addition to one or more full baths, which include a tub, sink, and toilet. It’s very rare in the US to have a room that includes a tub but not a toilet.)

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They could not understand why US bills are all the same size and color.
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Same size seems ok.

The USA is redesigning all of its money. First the $100, then the $50, and the more common $20. It all looks pretty much the same, except for bigger pictures of the Presidents, Ben Franklin, whatever. And added security strips to prevent forgery.

And It’s all the same color.

Still.

I was digging though my wallet the other day… I know I have a few twenties in there. It would make it easier, and make more sense if we would also use some different colors.

Meaning no one in Europe washes their hands after using the toilet?? :eek:

In the UK the lightswitches and electrical plugs are on the outside of the bathroom.

Apparently to prevent someone from blow drying their hair will standing in a puddle.

Shocking, really. :smiley:

all those posts about weird Canadians and their footware customs–but nobody has yet mentioned milk sold in bags.
Soft, floppy , plastic bags.
Dumb!

And now on to a more important topic: Bathroom doors.
Americans leave 'em open all the time ( unless somebody is inside.)
In Israel, this is considered rude–the toilet isn’t “nice” and shouldn’t be visible to someone sitting in the living room. (As was explained to me, very loudly, by an 8 year old)

For this reason, in all Israeli apartments, the bathroom door has a small window in it. If anyone is inside, they always turn on the light (even in daytime when it is not necessary).So you look at the window first. If the light is visible, then you know not to open the door and walk into the bathroom , because someone is already in there.
And if you are inside using it, but haven’t turned on the light…(expect a visit from a loud 8-year old)

I don’t think this is the case in most UK houses.You just get the one room with bathtub and/or shower, sink and toilet . Sometimes there is a separate toilet downstairs (“cloakroom” in estate agent’s parlance) but that usually comes with a small sink .

You haven’t seen culture shock in full effect until you’ve seen someone from a very urban country (such as the UK or the Netherlands) encounter what is known politely as a ‘dry’ toilet. These are quite common in Scandinavia since large areas of the country are outside the reach of sewerage/water and therefore the public toilets along roads, at campsites and so on tend to be variations on the theme of a seat suspended above a lot of poop. Depending on the variation, it can be an unsettling experience. However, at least I’ve never encountered a pig toilet :eek:
The US ‘it’s flooding! it’s flooding! oh wait… it’s OK’ toilets are just bizarre - the two-button models are much more sensible and environmentally friendly.

As far as the ‘shoes off in house thing’ goes, I suspect that may be a northern thing. In the winter its very cold and very snowy. You can’t wear your outdoor boots (or clothes, sometimes) inside because you’d get things wet and you’d melt. Hence a room where you take your boots (and down overtrousers and jumper and whatever) off. If it’s a posh party, you then need some smart shoes to put on. I seem to remember people doing the same in Norway.

Carpets are one thing that puzzles me. Brits have some sort of sexual fetish for carpet - they put it everywhere. It’s expensive, traps dirt and is a pain to clean. Why not just have a nice wood or lino floor and some rugs?

We keep our butter out of the fridge in a glass butter dish year-round, with the exception of days that are 90-100 degrees (Fahrenheit) or hotter, because then it just gets a little too liquidy for my liking. Never had a problem, but then we go through about a stick of butter a week around here.

I love travelling and have been fortunate to visit many places and I agree the most fun is watching the day to day unfold in new and remarkable ways.

A few I’ve noticed:

In Asia the corner variety store is generically refered to as the ‘Mama’ shop. As in, the shop your Mama is always sending you to. I love this one, branding be damned.

When I first went to Asia 20 yrs ago I stayed with a chinese girlfriend at her parents house. They had a, well, washer woman, for lack of a better word, who came daily to the house and did laundry and housecleaning. Each day our laundry would be done and folded on our beds when we came home. How wonderful. Her mother was mortified to learn we routinely saved our dirty laundry for a week before washing it. She had a washer and dryer but used them only for blankets (why they have blankets in the tropics I didn’t ask), convinced it was hard on your clothes. It was hard to believe it could be harder than hand washing them and hanging them in the tropical sun, but the truth is the clothing you wear in the tropics is usually made of very lightweight fabric so it may be true. I was shocked to discover that such washer women will wash mens undies but not womens. Women are expected to wash their own undies, and daily too, no saving them up. I, of course, announced that if I lived here I would wear mens undies and be done with it! Laughter ensued.

Since then, my friend has married and started her own family, has her own flat and does not employ a washer woman, doing the laundry herself. The housing flats are built with casement windows that open out, and below, usually the kitchen windows there are, built into the building, a pipe like fixture into which you insert 8 - 9 ft bamboo poles on which you hang your laundry. And there is an art to it too. They even have specially shaped clothes pins, plastic and made to attach around the diameter of your standard bamboo pole. You need to insert the pole into one sleeve and out the other of your shirts, pants up one leg and so on. Then, once loaded up you wrangle the pole out the open window inserting it into the appropriate pipe end, carefully as it’s heavy, oh and don’t lean out too far.

On my last visit I spent too much time really, sitting in her kitchen, both of us yakking it up while she did laundry for her family. After a couple of times watching, I was just itching to give it a try. When she asked what I wanted to do this day, I immediately replied; the laundry on the poles. After all I’d been admiring the hanging laundry throughout Asia over the course of many years and just wanted to get in the game.
She finally let me go to it while she drank her coffee and laughed at my efforts but did offer tips as I went along. Without experience it’s pretty easy to knock over a lot of things in the kitchen with a 9’ pole with wet laundry on it getting swung about. Laughter ensued.

There was a pitched battle, however, when it came time to put the poles out the window, it’s heavy and you only have the one end to hold on to. If you drop it you’ll have to rewash it not to mention looking like an amateur to the neighbours. Come to learn that it’s not unheard of for foreign inexperienced and, one assumes, shortish maids (always, it seems of the Sri Lankan or Phillipino persuasion), to stand on a stool to reach, lean out the open window, and with the weight of the laundry pole they fall to their death. She wasn’t having any of it, I promised I would be careful, take extra, extra care, she’d be right there to watch. Nope, not having it. I was barred from the window, a crushing penalty for having white skin it seemed to me. You see that’s what she kept telling me, “You don’t know how to do it, you’re a white girl, get away.”

When I spent time in Bali where there were still many unpaved roads and there was a time late every afternoon when people would come out of their houses and fling water onto the roads, to keep the dust down was the explanation I was given. Usually it signalled to me that it was time to think about going home and showering before dinner.

Did I mention I loved this topic?

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We do it as well. Couple of tips… absolutely warn everybody not to drink the water for a couple of days at least. We live in a duplex and share a well. We warned our neighbor but he forgot to tell his pregnant wife! She luckily didn’t drink any as the overpowering smell of chlorine put her off as she had the glass to her lips.

Be very careful if you take a shower! The day after we shocked the well I was nearly overcome by the chlorine gas as I showered. I coughed and gagged for nearly 15 minutes after. On the brite side, I was extremely clean.

Oh, one other thing! Run your water through all faucets for a long time after you shock the well. I think we ran the water constantly for at least 30 minutes.

Electrical sockets yes (apart from special shaver sockets), lightswitches no. Although they do tend to be ceiling-mounted switches rather than wall-mounted.

Actually, it’s a great idea. It really cuts down on the packaging for milk when you have a growing family. (I don’t drink that much milk by myself, so I get it in litre containers: cartons or (sometimes) plastic jugs).

You get a plastic pitcher with a handle. You put the bag of milk in, and you cut off one corner of the bag (opposite the handle) to pour it. When the bag is empty, you toss/recycle it, and you put another bag in the pitcher.

Bags are also good for storing milk in the freezer. And you can easily tell how much milk is in one, unlike the cartons.

Or unless you leave it a bit stinky. Then you leave the door shut with the fan running.

Do you lock the bathroom door when you are using it? We tend not to; I was told when I was a kid that not locking it was a good idea because then someone could get to you if there was a problem.

Elbows, this is just such a good story.

I wonder why the washing woman won’t wash women’s underpants. Mysterious.

Huh? I’m having a hard time understanding the concept of a “ceiling-mounted switch.” Is that one that has a string to pull, or do you have to reach up to use the switch.

In the US, we generally keep switches and outlets away from the tub, but it’s pretty much anything goes anywhere else. Yes, it’s dangerous, but surprisingly enough, most of us learn to avoid the dangers. Newer laws do require GFP outlets near sinks in new buildings–these outlets automatically switch off if there is a surge of electricity, to avoid electrocuting anyone.

The bathing room (with the sink and tub) is usually right next to the toilet, so yes, they do wash their hands. Just in a different room.

In public facilities, like restaurants, the toilets and the sinks are together, of course. But this discussion is geared more toward residential settings.

I did this too when we actually used sticks. However, we had a hard time keeping the cat from pushing off the top and licking it. Now we use a tub margarine that is spreadable straight from the fridge, and which turns to liquid if it is left out.

One of the things that got me the first time I ran into them in southern France were turkish toilets. I was a bit “backed up” from traveling, and was grateful for not having to worry about clogging a normal toilet. The other thing was the toilet (in its own room) in our Strasbourg flat had no tank; rather, it had a turn valve on the water supply pipe that dropped down from the ceiling, and you simply ran the water for an appropriate amount of time.

In that block of apartments, a neighbor draped the bed linens out the bedroom windows on the street side, every day. Our windows had real shutters that we closed every night at bedtime, and opened again in the morning.

People in the building across the street from us called the fire department one day. I watched from a front window, but didn’t see any signs of fire or medical emergency. Later, a downstairs neigbor said non-chalantly, they were there to clear out a wasps nest.

Another day, I was walking to a main shopping square, and stopped to watch firefighters on the roof of a building. I was 26 at the time, and a woman in her 40s came up beside me and asked, not in French, but Alsatian: , 's isch e feuer?" I was not prepared to be addressed in Alsatian, even though I heard it every day. I responded in French, even though I could manage a sentence or two in Alsatian.

The French also loved Yorkshire Terriers, and you’d see them walking their Yorkies all day long. The little dogs looked like mops bouncing along on four legs. Funniest looking dogs I’ve ever seen.

Many traffic lights in many parts of France are mounted high on a pole at the curb. If you stop at the stop line, you won’t see the light. Instead, you have to learn to stop a bit before the line, so that you don’t look like an idiot while craning your neck.

In Toronto, at least, instead of a left turn arrow meaning the opposing traffic still has a red light your green light flashes for a few seconds. That one took me a while to figure out and get used to.

In Toronto about 20 years ago, you could order a fast-food meal “for here to stay,” which was as redundant to me as it was irritating to the native Toronto woman I was visiting.

Also in Toronto, Kiminy and I were helping the above mentioned Torontonian set a table for dinner. We had heard her refer to “serviettes”, and Kiminy wasn’t sure if that really meant paper or cloth used to wipe our mouths, or if she could ask for the more familiar “napkin” which might indicate the need for a feminine hygene product. At dinner. In Canada. In what sounded like English to us.

And then there was the malfunctioning gas gauge, on the road to Roberval, PQ. We thought we might have a problem with our gas gauge, and Kiminy pulled out a translation dictionary to make sure she had the vocabulary correct (le gage d’essence). We pulled into a gas station, and started to explain the problem. The attendant looked at us funny, and then figured out what we were talking about: “Ah, c’est le gauge de gaz!” It was a nearly direct translation of English, similar to the “chiens chauds” (hot dogs) stands we had seen in Quebec City.

Finally (I swear this is the last one), back home from France, I wanted to keep my French sharp. I worked in a retail music store (records, tapes, CDs, radios and a few keyboards). A Quebecois family comes in, and I help them with a purchase of a Yamaha electronic drum set. Mind you, drums in continental French are “Batteries”, and electrical batteries are “piles”. So, going for the suggestive-selling kill, I ask “Vous voulez les piles pour le batterie?” Do you want batteries for the drums? They give me a look of incomprehension, and I ask again. Then it dawns on the mother, and she grabs a pack of batteries and says “Ceux-ci sont les batteries, celui-ci est le tampon.” These are batteries, and this is the drum (tampon). We all had a good laugh.

Vlad/Igor

Yep. We have run a lot of the water through the system. We don’t plan on drinking it for a few days. I bought a lot of distilled water for us, and the pets.

I don’t really know if it will help or not. I ended up using about 3 gallons of bleach. Our well is deep, and the casing actually has water weeping out of the top (mountain living, we live on a ‘hill’). I wan’t to get some Rid-X. The stuff you add to the septic system. I’ve heard that the stuff may not really make any difference in a healthy septic system, but I think it may be a good idea to get some after all that bleach.

Germans and Bugs
Germany is a Green Country and I applaud that and their very active stance.
However,

They apparently do not sell bug spray ( like OFF or the Yard Spray) at all and do not have any higher grade stuff for those pesky nest problems.

Our cousins had a wasp-bee nest on the side of their house that was at least 3 ft long and about 10 inches wide. Thing looked like a death star hanging there with such menance. They were not allowed to knock it down and kill the little fuckers and so, no one could eat or sit outside because of this rather strange policy.

Every where we went in their Northern Germany town were onions waiting to be cut open to be put on a sting. I had noticed the onions but wasn’t sure what they were for. When our son got his first bee sting ( actually about 7 stings on his leg by one pissed off wasp-hornet* thing) he was given half an onion to put on it to take away the sting and swelling. It worked like a charm. Good thing he wasn’t allergic to them or wackiness would have ensued.
*Everyone refered to these stinging creatures as waspens. They looked like Yellow Jackets to me. Little fuckers.

I think when they come over here for a visit, we shall show them the joys of nuking a nest and then setting it on fire. (YAY!) and that, my friends, is about as redneck as I get.

They’re wasps. A type known as, what else?, German wasps. But who cares about the taxonomy, they’re vicious little bastards, especially towards the end of summer when they get very hungry. Then, they will eat anything, and they will sting anyone that gets between them and a potential food source. For 4 to 6 weeks, your best bet is to avoid wearing any colors that look like flowers, don’t eat or drink outside, and watch what perfumes come in contact with your skin and hair…

In Norway you can no longer buy insect repellent in any form that contains more than 20% DEET. Not such a terrible thing here in the southeast, but as you go farther north you start encountering the evil mutant heat-seeking man-eating mosquitos of the Arctic and sub-Arctic. They laugh at 20% DEET. They drink 20% DEET for laughs at mosquito rave parties. Guess which part of the country most of the politicians live in? :stuck_out_tongue:

Differences:
When you buy a hot dog in Norway, you will be asked if you want it in a roll or a lompe. A lompe looks like a flour tortilla - tastes a bit like a cross between a flour tortilla and mashed potatoes. Toppings you may be offered for your hot dog include shrimp salad…

I was told when I moved here that housewives used to take their throw rugs out into fresh snow, lay them face down, and beat the bejeezus out of them. “It got them really clean, but you mustn’t do that, nobody does that these days.” Right. Clearly I hallucinate the rectangular grey patches in the snow every year, just before Christmas.

Very few schools sell hot lunches. Kids bring their lunch, though they typically get milk at school. Lunch boxes are small, just big enough to hold a stack of open-faced sandwiches and maybe some carrot sticks - if you want to bring a piece of fruit, you have to carry it loose in your backpack. And every kid carries a backpack. School uniforms are completely unknown, even in private schools.

Everyone takes off their shoes when they come inside. This also applies at work and school - children keep a pair of slippers or sandals at school, and adults have extra shoes at work. In hospitals it seems like all the nurses and doctors are clumping away in big white clogs. In private homes there is nearly always an entry, known as the vindfang (“wind catcher”), which allows you to remove your shoes and coat and also functions as a kind of airlock when the weather really sucks.

Some houses and apartments here have the toilet in a separate room, often with a tiny sink - seems to have been a fad for a while after the war. But most homes have the toilet, sink, and bath/shower in one room.

There is no word in the Norwegian language that directly corresponds to “please”. But they say takk (thank you) a lot. Thanks for the food after eating (also at home, to the cook). Thanks for today or thanks for this evening when leaving - my kids shake their teachers’ hands and say thanks for today at the end of the school day. Thanks for the last time when meeting friends again.

What happens when the mosquitos start carrying a disease? Around here, West Nile virus has arrived, carried by mosquitos, and we are constantly warned to wear DEET-laden repellents during mosquito hours lest we come down with the disease. (West Nile is not common, but quite serious and sometimes fatal. Patients spend weeks in the hospital and a few months recovering.) If such an illness arrives in Norway or Germany, what would the politicians do?