So give that sweet little kid I met in Gettysburg a good hard crack for me the next time he acts up. Just do it in the police station in front of witnesses. I’m sure you’ll get away with it. It’s purely a family matter, after all.
And I’m so happy that the person who gave that single swat (such a nice , affectionate word) got to sue for false arrest. How could anyone have thought that a single swat would be taken seriously by a responsible officer of the law? I bet that idiot cop who arrested him was sorry he did such a dumb thing, right?
Whether you’re heartbroken is neither here nor there. I’d guess, though, that if you won’t modify a deliberately offensive tone_the exact same tone you used outside the Pit in Great Debates BTW_you are less interested in advancing your side of the debate than you are in just provoking anger; hence you’re a jerk.
I think the Mods are very glad I opened this thread in the Pit (as opposed to any other venue. They’d probably be happiest of all if I hadn’t opened it anywhere at all.)
Not that dogs are like people, but a lot of people do this with puppies. In fact, dogs do this with their own kids–give them little nips when they bite too hard or get annoying. A teeny slap so that the kid (who’s not terribly verbal at this point) will get the message that hitting hurts so don’t do it doesn’t seem so terrible. I think when they get to the point where they can associate doing something bad with a more abstract punishment or when they can grok a lecture, then physical punishment seems wrong.
As others have said: No, you cannot “take words back.” You can apologize for them, but the pain they caused still happened. Same as with a spanking. There were many times during an argument with my mother when she’d chastise me for something I had done that I was so upset at being confronted I actually wished, fervently, that she’d just spank me and be done with it, rather than talking to me.
I mean, generally people who say they’d like a serious open-minded discussion post their thread in GD, or perhaps IMHO. They would seem to be the place for it.
You can NOT take away some things that have been said. I remember one spanking from when I was a kid. It means nothing to me, and I know why my father did it. I also know that it fixed my behavior.
There have been things said by my parents that they can NEVER take back. I would trade many of those interactions for a fist to the face happily. Negative words are 1,000 x worse than a spanking. Spankings tend to stop around age 5-6. Words just get worse and more personal.
You come across as the Corporal Punishment equivalent of a Pro-Lifer. Nothing that is said will penetrate your skull.
You also appear to have no concept of the continuum of child punishment.
When I PHYSICALLY grab my 5 year old, is that a “beating” in your book? After all, I have not used words, I have grabbed his arm (or sometimes his entire body) and hauled him off in a new direction. In his world his father has interceded in a very physical fashion in a way that he can NOT fight, given our size differences. Based on your statements: I am showing him that might makes right, size matters, physical strength rules, and any other bullshit you might wish to toss out.
The only lesson I ever learned from the spankings I received was, “Shit! That hurt. Best not get caught again.”. But, I still preferred a beating, to being grounded. Hence, the more effective punishment was the least violent one.
I didn’t say the concept of “privacy” never makes any sense anywhere. I did imply that, with child abuse, it’s complete self-serving bullshit. If a job-related discipline gets revealed in court, it’s fine as long as no law was violated. A child-abuser who gets hauled into court is on very shaky legal ground.
