In other words if the vice president shot somebody in the face (hehe) and killed them, on puplic television and then stated it was premeditated and he did he purposely to kill the said person. Could Bush just say, well forget about it he isnt going to jail?
As long as it’s a federal crime, yes. Any murders committed in Washington DC would fall under federal jurisdiction. Bush would be impeached in record time, but the pardon would still stand as the power to pardon is absolute and irrevocable.
If Cheney shot somebody on TV and the crime occured in Maryland (just to use an example) the Maryland authorities could arrest him and tell Bush to take a hike.
What if Cheney was standing on the Maryland/DC border and fired a gun into Maryland?
Dick, is that you?
Better yet, what if Cheney was standing on a treadmill?
It’d probably be both state and federal then. Bush could pardon Cheney for the federal aspect of it.
But what if Cheney is wanted in Maryland and Bush refuses to extradite?
Could the president pardon himself if he put forth the pardon before his impechment?
I imagine not, as he can hardly pardon himself (or anyone else) when he has not yet been convicted of anything.
Presumably, Cheney would also be impeached, and impeachement is specific exception to the President’s pardon power in the Constitution. This didn’t come up in the Watergate case when Ford pardoned Nixon, because Nixon was never officially impeached (he resigned before they had the opportunity, though he almost certainly would have been had he not).
Not true. Ford pardoned Nixon before any charges had been filed.
That’s the problem. All a President needs to do is scrible “I hereby pardon myself” on one cocktail napkin and then “I resign my office” on the next one and he’s untouchable.
Pardon me?: The constitutional case against Presidential self-pardons , 106 Yale Law Journal 3:779 (1997).
Presidential pardons can also take the form of blanket amnesty over an entire class of individuals. For example President Madison pardoned all deserters during the War of 1812 in an attempt to get them to go back to their units, Lincoln did the same during the American Civil War.
Does the president have any power over extraditions from DC? That is, could he really block such an extradition?
President Carter also issued pardons to all Vietnam-era draft dodgers.
Before he had been impeached, yes, but the articles of impeachment had been drafted and the judiciary committee had voted on them. My point is that the charges against Nixon were formally documented.
However, it is also worth noting that Ford’s pardon did not refer specifically to those charges, but rather was a blanket pardon for all offenses he might have committed during his time in office.
The president plays no part in the extradition process in the District of Columbia.
District of Columbia Official Code, §23-704
Perhaps you could supply an online link.
No online link, unless you subscribe to Lexis or Westlaw.
Carter did pardon Vietnam draft evaders. He excluded deserters, or those who chose to get less than honorable discharges (in order to get out of serving). It also excluded civilians who protested. It also excluded all those who participate in any act of violence.