Well, then certain women will have to accept that being killed is one of the potentials when they try to extort money from an unwilling father. Seriously, Dio why do you think men should be punished for having vaginal sex? Do you think certain AIDs victims should be denied medication also because they choose to have sex knowing the disease was a risk? We have all the technology to prevent unwanted pregnancy. If someone refuses to use it they should be allowed to wallow and die in the hell of their own making.
Still leaves 6 options that you didn’t address. And sex isn’t free, either. If a guy isn’t willing to stay with a woman long enough to assure himself she isn’t lying to get the baby she craves, he shouldn’t be indulging in vaginal intercourse with her without acknowledging and taking the risk that she will get pregnant and decide to keep it–the onus is on him to abstain from sex with her, or accept the consequences of his decision not to abstain.
Besides, you’re only hearing one side of that guy’s story. I wouldn’t take it for granted that his baby mama was just a money-grubbing bitch who wanted to get her hands on his money. Though I’m sure he’s happy to spin it that way to gain your sympathy (it worked!).
It’s not a good general rule to heap blame upon a pregnant woman for deciding to keep a child in spite of the father’s wishes. In first-world countries, it’s up to the woman to make these decisions. As a woman, I like having the option.
My own mother had a rifle held to her stomach for refusing an abortion (by her [drunk] husband at the time), and she still didn’t change her mind. If not for that, my little sister wouldn’t have been born. I’m glad my mom had the guts to stick to her guns… pardon the pun.
Do you really think my mom should have been killed for refusing to abort her pregnancy? My dad wanted more beer money and not a second child. I just want to know if you completely lack human empathy and are thus unworthy of continued debate.
So, do I, but I think it’s only fair that a man should have the option if he doesn’t want to be a father to sign away his parental rights within a reasonable amount of time after being informed of the pregnancy or childbirth and have all ties severed with the woman and child.
Would I have voted not guilty at the trail if your father had shot your mother? No, but there are plenty of circumstances when I would gladly nullify a jury for a man who kills his pregnant gold-digger or baby rabid sex partner rather than submit to 18 years of financial rape. To me that’s no different than shooting a robber breaking into your house or shooting a human trafficker trying to enslave you.
Yeah, she should give that kid up for adoption…wait, that’s baby theft, isn’t it? Shooting pregnant women is okay, but shaking their hand is rape…damn, this is complicated!
Why are you calling it financial rape? Are you trying to claim that a man who sticks his penis into a woman’s vagina could not logically be expected to understand that that’s how can maek babby?
I don’t think you realize that, by the view that men should not have ANY financial responsibility for contributing half of a fetus’s DNA, your opinion of men and women is equally low.
I think a man who sticks his penis into the vagina of a woman who offers him no contract sex or sex for an agreed upon fee (i.e. prostitution rather formal or informal) has a right to assume he has no further obligations from or to the woman. For the woman to demand afterwards that she wants a commitment financial or emotional is just plain dirty dealing. She’s a cheat and deserves to be reviled.
No it isn’t. She can 1.) support the kid on her own 2.) she can have an abortion (probably the best solution of all) or 3.) she can let the child be raised by mentally stable honest people who like children but do not suffer from some strange delusion that children have to pretend their caregivers gave birth to them in order to be happy.
My opinion. . .
I’m in the same situation, i’ve got some people telling me to do for the benifits of the child because the child deserves it and while that may be true, the father of my baby has made it very clear that he wants nothing to do with me or the baby. I have no intentions of pursuing for child support. Some may think that will be one of the stupidest decisions i’ll ever make but i wont have to fight and argue with an immature adult whose refusing to grow up and take responsibility for his actions.
My advice, Think long and hard to see if the person that would be paying the child support would be someone who won’t start a whole bunch of shit every time the payment is due, Someone who doesn’t act like he’s still 15 (unless he really is, then i’m not sure what to say) and is willing to take responsibility. I’ve know alot of women who have gotten pregnant and pursued for child support and it’s a battle everyday because neither side of the party can get along even for the child’s sake.
I also watched my parents go through the exact same thing and we never saw a dime from him. Which is completely fine, i grew up knowing another man as “daddy” and he is the best (step)father any girl could have asked for!!
While most people will tell you that Yes you do need to go for the child support just because it’s “deserved” i say if the dad doesn’t want any participation in the child’s life and you don’t want to deal with fighting with him for the next 18 yrs then leave it alone. . This is all about the baby and what’s going to benifit the child and is watching, hearing, or being around the mother and father who can’t get along if their lives depended on it, how healthy is that for anyone in that whole situation???
In Virginia at least the state has a no-nonsense agency to collect and enforce child support payments. If you elect to get your payments through that agency then the non-custodial parent has to deal with the agency, not you.
In theory yes, in reality no.
A parent who is otherwise content to just walk away, may find an interest in seeing his child from paying support every month. Of course, that interest is not likely to be in having a healthy relationship with his offspring but, rather, with creating drama, punishing his ex, or getting his money’s worth.
Support and custody are separate in the justice system, but connected emotionally.
Exactly. A bad person may walk away quietly if you let them. If you go after them in court for money, they may dedicate themselves to making your life miserable, and they may do it by hurting your child.
Remember, the incidence of psychopthy in the population is 3/100 for men and 1/100 for women. (“The Psychopath: emotion and the brain” by James Blair (MD.), Derek Robert Mitchell, Karina Blair).
That means that 1 in every 25 people is actually a dangerous person to leave a child alone with. Trading the possibility of a few dollars for the probability of your child spending time alone with such a person is plain stupid.
People who choose to walk away from their own affspring are very seldom the emotionally-balanced “Father Knows Best” type. Let them walk.