Young people. However, banking on young people voting and setting your strategy accordingly is definitely Bernie’s fault.
The primary is not the general. Not voting in one does not presage not voting in the other.
Yeah, and were they being told that by the Texas Democratic Party? Even knowing that, would they be willing to risk being disciplined or fired by an employer that doesn’t care?
This tweet from a crybaby Bernie Bro sums up perfectly why they don’t vote. ‘Voting is hard, waaaahhh!
https://twitter.com/paco_jrmr/status/1235313766146945031?s=21
Hard agree; as Buttigieg would say “it’s the issue that affects every other issue.”
Generally, while I wouldn’t say I “blame” Sanders, the Super Tuesday turnout is a pretty big deal - a big part of his pitch to Democrats is that he can turn out the youth vote. If he’s no better than everyone else it absolutely hurts his electability.
Finding random strangers on twitter to mock is an interesting hobby! Is it more fun when they’re struggling young minorities?
This is the problem. Let them vote online and their numbers will soar.
Random stranger? You mean a mutual Twitter follower?
You’re not plugged into the zeitgeist: voting should be as low-tech as humanly possible, no computers involved at all, strictly pen and paper no matter how many races, questions, etc. are on the ballot or how many hundreds of thousands of votes must be counted. 
I have to blame the potential young voters.
There are now more Millennials than Baby Boomers, but more Boomers vote.
In the UK, young people heavily supported Remain, but Brexit won because fewer young people voted. Young people turned out to vote for Jeremy Corbyn in 2017 but not in 2019, so the Conservatives went from a slim minority to a huge majority. Quebec separatists are generally young (at least they were in 1995!), and separatists lost the last referendum because their supporters didn’t turn out to vote.
The trope that “young people don’t vote” is so pronounced that when said trope is averted, it’s called a youthquake. Obama seems to have pulled that off twice (while much is made of his appeal to people of color, they’re younger on average too). Twice in a row was enough to cause people to forget voting patterns and assume that the Democrats would always get the support of young people.
I have always been interested in politics but I used to vote only about half the time until six or so years ago. I used to work part-time, so it’s not like I was too busy to vote. I also had no understanding of the economy. Getting a good job (with pension and benefits) really changes your outlook, and a lot of young people are struggling even to move out of their parents homes so they can rent.
A lot of this youthful enthusiasm seems to be based on social media echo chambers. “I’m a Bernie Bro but I didn’t vote” probably comes up a lot. (Jeremy Corbyn made the mistake of investing heavily in social media, unaware that instead of extending his reach he was just talking to the converted.)
Instead of flimsy accusations of fraud there would be actual fraud. “Putin… er, young people… voted for the Republicans this year. That was surprising.”
Youth turnout in the primaries and the general were higher for Obama as I recall. And even better for Sanders primaries 2016 than now.
So Sanders 2020 has to shoulder some responsibility for the failure.
Now, why bring his ethnicity in to this?
Tons of young people stayed home due to apathy but used the “screwed over” excuse. What makes you give this guy the benefit of the doubt?
None of that is the state’s problem or responsibility, except that the State would be the ones enforcing their laws against the employer.
But if it’s important to you to vote, it’s also equally important to understand stuff like that.
And if the Texas Democratic Party isn’t getting the word out on that kind of thing, it seems like a pretty huge failing on their part to distribute necessary knowledge like that to their constituency, which presumably would be more likely to need to know that versus the average Republican voter.
Just curious about the desire to mock strangers on twitter. Especially when it’s “punching down”. Punching down is bad and people shouldn’t do it.
Not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.
More to the side of the argument that it is Bernie’s Fault more - 2018 youth turnout.
That was the highest percent turnout of the age cohort in midterms since at least 1978. The engagement was there and somehow he manage to throw a damp towel on to it.
One can only hope that the relative depression of youth engagement he has caused does not spill over into the general against Trump.
If you cannot mock strangers on Twitter, where can you mock them? (FWIW, I don’t use the platform but I’m not ignorant of how it’s commonly used by those who do.)
We mock strangers on SDMB. I’ve done it. You’ve done it. Pretty sure the mockery was deserved in cases that come to mind. If not, I’m prepared to issue an apology.
Point is, you can’t go around assuming the mockery is based on motives not in evidence.
You guys do realize that polling places, etc… are set by the local county governments, and in the cases of Houston and Dallas, where the long lines were reported, those county governments are STRONGLY Democrat.
I’m more inclined to attribute a lot of it to snafus and incompetence than somehow the local Democratic-controlled county governments intentionally sticking it to their own people, so to speak.
Now had this been in one of Fort Bend or Collin counties, I could maybe have understood it, as they’re right-leaning and seem to be filled with just the sort of hostile middle class white people who might engage in these shenanigans. But Dallas or Harris counties? No way.
Okay, mocking strangers on twitter isn’t really a big deal. I’m probably still a bit stung because my preferred candidate didn’t do as well as I hoped (and still a bit annoyed by that poster’s extreme vitriol towards Bernie and Bernie supporters). But I don’t like punching down, and I’m pretty sure I refrain from it. If you can find an instance in which I punched down, that’s bad on me, but I doubt you’d be able to find one.
It’s great that you’ve personally decided that latinx people are off limits to criticism. It’s awesome. But a little unrealistic to expect of everyone else.
I didn’t decide this.