ok, first off, i was going to search this board for threads related but i couldnt find the search button, so points off on me there, but anyway, here it is
Cancer is caused by radiation and only radiation (no suprise there)
People are getting more cancer because #1 people are living longer #2 we can diagnose it easier #3 its the frickin information age
Most people get cancer from radiation directly from the sun
Smoking and related things screw with the natural resistance of our cells to cancer
any questions (yeah, im wrong somewhere, no way some 17 year old can figure out what causes cancer)? also, thanks for the input
Why do you think cancer is caused by radiation and only radiation?
Doesn’t asbestos cause cancer?
What about PCB’s?
Aren’t there many cancer causing chemicals?
I also thought cancer was caused by errors introduced during cell division (this could be wrong).
We have been studying cancer for decades. There is no evidence to state ‘it is only caused by radiation’, and I am surprised you do so.
To be precise, people are not getting more cancer because of your reasons #2 + #3. It would just mean that earlier cases of cancer went undiagnosed.
Yes, you can get skin cancer from over-exposure to the Sun. And from carciogenic chemicals. You need to give a cite to back up your claim that the majority of cases are from the Sun.
ok, back to some sherlock holmes logic “if you eliminate all but one, then that one must be right”
so now i know that you are going to be able to do this easily, prove that anything other than radiation and the “Chemicals that screw with the resistance of your cells” cause cancer
Your cells normally have controls so that they stop dividing when not needed. Cancer occurs when all of the several control mechanisms malfunction, and the cells begin to divide and take nutrients away from the healthy cells.
The control factors are enzymes. Enzymes are proteins created by the DNA in the nucleus of your cells. Anything that damages your DNA can cause a chemical change in the DNA coding, resulting in a disabled enzyme. This chemical change can be caused by lots of different things…radiation, chemicals, random quantum fluctuations, etc.
Exposure to a carcinogen doesn’t usually cause cancer right away because your cells won’t turn cancerous without several failures. But every exposure to carcinogens is potentially dangerous, because that exposure could have knocked out one of the cellular mechanisms that prevent cancer. Lose one mechanism and you’re fine. Lose the next and you’re still fine. Lose the next and you’re still fine. Lose the last in the chain and that cell line begins to divide uncontrollably and you’ve got cancer. Each exposure to a carcinogen has a chance of mutating the DNA in one or more of your cells, you probably have dozens or hundreds of pre-cancerous cells in your body that already have one or several mutations. Each exposure to carcinogens increases the risk that one or more of those cells will get another mutation that knocks out another protection. If you have lots and lots of precancerous cells the likelihood that some of them will mutate into cancerous cells is very high, even if you have no further exposure to carcinogens, since quantum fluctuations will cause a small number of replication errors even with absolutly no ionizing radiation.
What you have created is an infalsifiable hypothesis. There is no way to prove that exposure to the sun (radiation) isn’t the cause of all cancer, since there has never been a study done on people who were never exposed to the sun at all. In fact, the number of people who have absolutely never, ever been exposed to the sun is almost nonexistent. Since the category of sun-exposed people overlaps almost completely with the entire human race, there are no control subjects (i.e. people who have never seen the sun) you can use to disprove the hypothesis, or at least, there wouldn’t be enough to make a viable case study.
You might as well “prove” that having a brain gives you the flu or that moving gives people heart attacks.
No, you don’t understand. You are the one making the extraordinary claim that “only radiation causes cancer”, so the burdem is on you to provide some proof for this statement.
well, im not complaining, this is why i come here, to learn new ways of thinking. dont worry, i never thought for a second that my “theory” (if you can call it that much) would hold up, well, anyway, until my next poorly thought up question
Please try to state you next poorly worded question as a question. I changed the title of this one rather than moving it. You can search for previous threads when you join the board as a member. Hope to see you in a month or less.
The “Search " button is is in the 1/4” wide blue line at top of each page. The eighth from the left or third from the right. It is “Search^” except that the carat is actually a triangle pointed down. :rolleyes:
Where, in the name of common sense, did you find that “Factoid?”
A little reading on the subject, on your part, would provide the basis for an intelligent post/query.
