Is every man in this world inclined towards infidelity ?

[Zebra]

I don’t see how it would change anything with prostitution.

People, (men) are not aware that women like sex as much as they do.

Just because they want to have sex, doesn’t mean they want to have sex with a particular person. It’s not like the sex drive destroys their brains and will make them hump the stick shift to death.

Women may be more selective about partners, but that does not mean they don’t want them and when they get a partner, they want sex just as much as any man does. (All day and all of the night)

[Mijin]

@colander

Incidentally: one thing I am trying very, very hard to get across to you is that it would be extremely poor form for a scientist to wave away results simply because they seem superficially “implausible”.

Absolutely, it’s a good thing I’ve never suggested such a thing. I was asking you whether you found those particular implications of what it’s saying about men plausible.

@colander

@Mijin

Otherwise we’re basically saying “Men, like women, only accept offers of casual sex if they think the woman has the requisite skillset. The requisite skillset in this case being having a vagina”.

Such a conclusion would not be inconsistent with the results of the study.

It’s a problem for the paper’s conclusion, as summed up in the abstract* though, isn’t it? There it says that the difference in whether men or women accept offers of casual sex is largely due to differences in perceived competence of the proposer.

However, if in the real world men are not bothered at all by a woman having absolutely no experience**, then that really doesn’t sit well.

• I’ve given up asking for you to link the paper. I don’t think you’ve read it either.
  ** Yes, I’m aware there’s a difference between experience and competence. They are clearly coupled however.

I have corrected you on this already. I will do so again: The study included stranger scenarios. That was, again, the very first experiment that was done. In addition to stranger scenarios, it subsequently investigated other scenarios designed to probe how the responses of the subjects change when their expectation of sexual gratification from the encounters is increased.

That’s not “correcting” me, that’s simply ignoring my point again.

If you want to draw a new conclusion the data must support it.

Conley repeated someone else’s experiment, and got the same result they did. Then she came up with her own scenarios, which are not representative at all – like the celebrity example, and curiously omitting typical stranger scenarios – and believed that that justifies reinterpreting the original experiment.
It doesn’t.

[Mijin]

@Zebra

People, (men) are not aware that women like sex as much as they do.

Just because they want to have sex, doesn’t mean they want to have sex with a particular person. It’s not like the sex drive destroys their brains and will make them hump the stick shift to death.

Women may be more selective about partners, but that does not mean they don’t want them and when they get a partner, they want sex just as much as any man does. (All day and all of the night)

Agreed.

There was a time in Western psychology/biology where the consensus was that women enjoyed sex less than men, but that time is long passed.

The debate nowadays is over whether there are differences in behaviour for things like casual sex scenarios and whether (and to what extent) there is an instinctive aspect to such differences.