Already making excuses. “What happens in an avalanche stays in an avalanche… now hold me tight and say Miss Gorightry I plotest”.
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It is even so with this situation. You lump together all financial dealings as though they are identical. But in the case of NewsCorp, their “in bed with” amounts to the fact that the guy called his broker and said, “Buy me a couple million shares of NewsCorp.” NewsCorp has no qualification test that a prospective stock owner must pass. Indeed, being a publicly traded corporation, they can’t. NewsCorp’s financial association with Talal is not the product of a single voluntary act on the part of NewsCorp, nor could they sever the relationship if they wished to do so.
Is this also true of the funding of the "Ground Zero Mosque"ington Coat Factory?
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Did the “Big Mo’s Ground Zero Mulimegaplex & Grill” get money from bin Talal? Evidently.
Did Fox get a shitload of money from bin Talal? Evidently. (I’m not a business major but my understanding is that when you get a large share of stock in a huge company it’s usually in exchange for a lot of money.)
Does the fact that Fox anchors imply the Muslimegaplex has terrorist ties because of bin Talal when they themselves have received money from bin Talal but choose not to mention that and even go to lengths to not mention it make them frigging hypocrites? Yep.
A few years ago it was revealed that Michael Moore’s portfolio includes Halliburton stock and that he’s taken full advantage of several legal shelters and loopholes to pay less income tax just as fellow “corporations are all evil” leftie Noam Chomsky did with his own substantial holdings while condemning the rich and the 1%ers not being taxed enough. Do you find this hypocritical?
When I said “influence or control” I meant by the more usual path of voting your shares in favor of a seat or seats on the board.
I grant that a threat to dump 7% of the stock at one time would cause a bad drop in market price, although at some point obviously bargain hunters would come in and pick it up.
Somebody did. If he bought it as the result of an IPO or subsequent stock issue, then maybe NewsCorp got the money. But if he bought it from other holders, then THEY got the money.
So if it were shown that Talal bought the stock from other holders, it would change your mind?
Not really. Unless I missed some specific criticism of Moore’s against Halliburton or tax shelters.
She’s not stupid. It’s all an act. They act like their viewers and it gets eaten up. Carlson graduated with honors from Stanford and studied at Oxford. The Daily Show did a bit on this actually.
Bricker is just obfuscating the point. The point is that these people accused someone of getting monetary benefits from a certain guy,treating that like a bad thing, when they themselves also got money from the guy.
It doesn’t matter if he bought the stocks from someone else, any more than it would matter if the guy had just paid people back for supporting the not-mosque. The point is that Fox benefits from having the guy own those shares. Throwing in a middle man does change that.
The second the transaction was complete, it was bin Talal’s money that was supporting Fox. And having him support you is “bad,” according to them.
Wait wait wait wait wait… the show is actually called Fox & Friends? I thought that was just a condescending name The Daily Show gave these idiots to describe all the commentators disguised as news reporters.
And it was fairly relevant that they haven’t offered any evidence at all that this investor supports terrorism in any way. They simply stated he funds radical Madrasahs all over the world in order to taint any money that might fund Park 51
This keeps whizzing right past Bricker - he’s clearly out of his confort zone on the topic. We’re not talking about minority ownership in a closely held mom n’ pop corp. We’re talking the startegic aliance between a worldwide media conglomerate, News Corp., and a regional media congolmerate, Rotana. Talaal didn’t just call up his broker one day and give him a buy order on News Corp. Murdoch and Talaal are aquainted. They’re business partners. The mere suggestion otherwise displays incredible ignorance. This issue is well outside Bricker’s constitutional law wheelhouse and it shows.
