Fox Business host Stuart Varney falsely told both Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich … “I don’t know whether you saw this or not, Mr. Senator, but earlier this morning in Germany the Germans presented the Chinese with an invoice — as in a bill — for 160 billion dollars worth of damage that they say China did to Germany. … So it’s not just us, this is worldwide I think.”
“Absolutely,” responded Scott, adding, “Let’s look at the dollars we’ve spent to take care of people and try to get this economy going. We should send a bill to communist China for those dollars. They caused this problem because they were not transparent.”*
Because what conservatism needs even more than lots of money funneling upward to billionaires is someone to tell the hoi polloi to blame for their predicament other than said billionaires. The xenophobia is just gravy.
Thought this might be a relevant place to post this:
What is notable is that in nearly all of the swing states - Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, Nevada, Arizona, and Iowa - viewers somewhat prefer to watch Fox News rather than CNN. (However, there are many other non-CNN liberal channels as well, so it could be a case of Fox commanding a plurality, but not a majority.)
Ya think? What a silly statistic. This was like Bernie’s position before all the other moderates dropped out. Do people under 40 even watch any news? I don’t watch any news and I’m over 50. Did the chart at least say, of those people who watch news…? What percentage is that?
Anyway, the moderator of that site deleted the chart – maybe you could find it on Fox News or something and repost a link.
Also, I have no idea what it has to do with this thread.
Not at all surprising nor particularly worrisome. Fox news regularly beats all of the other news networks in nation wide viewing numbers, for the reasons you say. Republican viewing is heavily tilted to fox news while Democrats divvy up their viewing habits between NPR, CNN, MSNBC etc. So Fox wins by getting a larger share of a smaller audience. Swing states are by definition those for which there are approximately equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans, so this effect will be exacerbated in those states.
I’m about as anti-Fox as it gets, and I’d still prefer to watch Fox over CNN. Not because I think CNN’s bad or deceptive; it’s just uninteresting compared to Fox. Fox has mostly great looking babes, mostly spouting amazing conspiracy theories. CNN is just boring old facts from boring old people. So Fox is way more entertaining.
I don’t use either for news. I get my news online from a variety of newspaper, news networks, and newsmagazine websites, so I don’t need to watch CNN for news (and I rarely click on a link to CNN online, because for reasons I don’t understand, it will usually start blasting audio about a story that has nothing to do with the reason I clicked). Why websites want to drive away people in this manner is beyond me.
I’ve had occasion to switch to Fox recently when the reputable networks would cut away from Trump’s Covid press conferences because he was spouting gibberish. I find his gibberish entertaining, and I can always count on Fox to broadcast it.
Yeah, I mean, if there is a passenger train derailment that I happen to be near, I like to pull over and watch the chaos as people run in circles trying to decide whether to get as far away as possible or run back into the burning wreckage to try to rescue someone they care about, or at least maybe help some suffering person nearby, until at last they fall face forward on the ground, flames gently licking at the edges of their waning existence.
That is what watching Individual-ONE struggle with English and coherent concepts is. Fox adds the dimension of emergency vehicles crashing into each other as they arrive at the scene.
After the worst unemployment reading since the Great Depression:
CNN front page: The real unemployment rate is worst than we thought. Here’s why
NPR: One for the History Books, 14.7% Unemployment, 20.5 million jobs wiped away
NY Times: US Unemployment Rate Hits 14.7%, Worst Since Great Depression
Washington Post: Jobless rate soars to 14.7%, worst level since Great Depression
MSNBC: Leads with Flynn case, but has jobs report just below the fold
Fox News: Fox & Friends Exclusive: President Trump says ‘more to come’ on Russia probe documents.
Then, off to the left: Trump: Jobs lost to coronavirus will be back ‘very soon’. Basically, putting a positive spin on the worst jobs report in like 80 years.
It’s state media, plain and simple. It’s actually worse – it’s the media that the head of state follows. Trump doesn’t tell Fox what to say, Fox tells Trump what to say.
That’s hilarious/frightening. For anyone who looks at Fox + at least one other news outlet, the distinction is startling. What’s frightening is the people who only watch Fox and have no idea what’s really happening in the world.
That’s why I was so seriously bummed out when Shepard Smith left Fox. He spend a lot of time doing pieces debunking the conspiracy theories and Trumpian gaslighting that happened on the morning and evening shows.
He had a mid-afternoon show that didn’t have as much viewership as the morning and evening shows, but he got the 24/7 Fox crowd. He really tried to inject some honest journalism inside the Fox bubble. I thought he was the most important journalist on TV for that reason.
Chris Wallace isn’t quite as horrible as the rest of the bunch and every now and then Brett Baier acts like a real journalist - they’re hopelessly conservative but they’ll ask hard questions and criticize Trump on occasion.
Yeah, the fact that so many people get their news from Fox is scary. I really wish that Bloomberg and Steyer and some other mega-rich liberals would get together and buy them. That might drive their viewers to OAN, though,
I’m not claiming that either is right or wrong… I’m saying that each has selective coverage and viewpoints.
If you want to see what CNN and MSNBC ignores then turn on FOX News. If you want to see what FOX tries to ignore / downplay then turn to CNN or MSNBC. You need to watch both to get a feel for both sides and even be aware of lots of the questions and perspectives each side has.
I watch both because I want to see what’s coming from both sides.
People say they long for the Old Days" when the “unbiased” newsmen all just told the news and it was pretty much the same on each channel. Yeah… It was pretty much the same but I’m not sure at all that it was unbiased. Even if their diligence in reporting the facts depended on what they decided was worth looking into.
Sorry, but this is just the lazy reasoning of false equivalence. There are 52 pages in this thread explaining why Fox News is uniquely bad. The comparison between CNN and Fox News, isn’t a comparison between two legitimate news organizations with differing points of view, it is the difference between journalism and propaganda. Items critical of Democrats appear all the time on CNN, the Washington Post, or NBC. They may not appear as often as items critical of Republicans, but that is simply because the current crop of Republicans tend to do more appalling things than the current crop of Democrats. With Fox news, all stories are crafted to slant towards the Republican conservative point of view.
Here is a simple example from the front page of CNN
Yes, each has selective coverage and viewpoints. But Fox also deliberately lies and makes shit up, and deliberately keeps lying long after their stories are debunked. CNN and MSNBC aren’t perfect, and sometimes get stories wrong, but they correct them as soon as they know they’re wrong. Fox will keep pounding on stuff like Uranium One for months or years after it’s debunked.
Yeah… if a geologist says the earth is round and some rando on youtube says it’s flat, the smart thing isn’t to listen to both and consider them equally.
The only value watching Fox has is to understand what sort of bullshit their peddling to better counteract it.
