Note also that this is just one piece of a much larger pattern. I’m sure lots of news papers/outlets out there don’t give this one item as much attention as others, but doing so only when it benefits your narrative is part of the blatant corruption of rational thought that is Fox News. Further, it’s part of a repeated, intentional, and overt constellation of examples. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me … fool me a thousand times, won’t get fooled again.
But, as I said, there were links to two Fox News stories about the jobs report easily found on their homepage. And it was the big cover story on Fox Business, which I think is the equivalent of CNBC as a more economic driven outlet.
It was the top story with an alert on top of the page on MSNBC, NBC news, CNBC and every other version of NBC you can come up with (as it is every month on every news site). It was nowhere on Foxnews.com until later in the day where it was buried.
Whenever Bill Maher quotes any comparative numbers, he always makes a special point to helpfully tell Republicans which one is bigger, to avoid just this sort of misunderstanding. Apparently it’s quite common among the Fox News crowd.
Oh yeah, here’s one for the “Yes, they actually are that awful” file:
FOX takes a video of radical muslims in France ca. 2011 and pretends that it’s footage of Syrian refugees ca. 2015.
A Facebook friend of mine brought this article to my attention. Entitled “This Is How Fox News Brainwashes Its Viewers: Our In-Depth Investigation of the Propaganda Cycle,” it gets fairly comprehensive as it points out - to keep this literally on topic - why Fox News really is all that bad.
At least they didn’t put a (D) by their names.
Governments are always quick to tell us about the new jobs that have been provided by THEIR policies and dodge the issue that the unemployment figures have increased. In the U.K. The government are telling us about all the lovely new jobs but fail to tall us about the 350,0000+ immigrants that have entered the U.K. over the last 12 months far exceeding the number of new jobs so it is only logical that the number of unemployed increases
Why does that have anything to do with this discussion?
“This content has been removed from YouTube as a violation of the terms regarding scams, spam and commercially deceptive content”.
Yeah, you could see how FoxNews footage would qualify. Anybody wanna bet who filed the complaint ? Three guesses, and the first two don’t count.
People are quick to accuse Fox of massaging the figures but governments Left or Right are very adept at pulling the wool over their citizens eyes by only telling half truths
the manipulation of unemployment figures is a good example. another example the U.K. government told us that a certain ethnic group was guilty of only 25% of a certain crime therefore the other 75% was committed by the rest of the population, true on the face of it BUT the truth is that the 25% was committed by only 3% of the population which shows that their is a problem within that community.
We need groups such as Fox be they left of right to put the other side of the argument so that we the people can come to a evenhanded opinion.
Perhaps you should start another thread about how the UK government lies to its citizens. My first question would be, have they changed the method that they use to calculate the unemployment figures? If not, how long have they been lying?
But like I said, this issue is a different subject for a different thread.
There are no “sides” to an argument if everyone is lying.
Not attempting to defend Fox News, which I do not watch, but one of the more memorable examples of bias I have seen was MSNBC’s handling of a jobs report. It was a bad report, and everyone agreed on that. However, because of a statistical technicality, the unemployment rate fell slightly. MSNBC had commentators discussing how bad this report was, overlaid with a large text graphic proclaiming “Jobless rate falls” or similar.
Let’s be clear here - when people say “FOX is full of shit” they aren’t just accusing. They’re demonstrating. They’re showing, quite clearly, that Fox either lied or misled about a particular issue.
Look, I think we can all agree that fact-checking is one of the primary things the media needs to do. It’s up to them to keep the politicians from lying. And when you catch a politician lying, by all means, call them out and show why they’re wrong!
But FOX doesn’t do that with any regularity. Indeed, more often than not, what’s needed is fact-checkers to keep them in line, because they lie all the time. Indeed, they lie to the point where it really beggars belief that anyone takes them seriously in the first place; to the point where the few times they get it right does not mean that they have earned their place at the big-boy table (or for that matter any justification for existing). Because I can tell you right now, the only reason they got it right was because it furthered their political ideology to do so.
In general, when people say “FoxNews is full of shit”, at least on the SDMB, they are accusing. Mostly they are accusing FoxNews of spinning when they would prefer spin in the opposite direction.
The idea that FoxNews is more deceptive than any of the other US MSM is mostly selective perception. I refer again to Bricker’s thread on the topic, which demonstrated rather clearly that there is one standard (among liberals) to determine if FoxNews is biased, and none at all for the other MSM.
Regards,
Shodan
Is this why study after study after study after study after study has shown FOX News viewers to be more misinformed on virtually every significant policy issue than people watching almost any other network, and in some cases worse-off than people who don’t watch the news at all? Did you skip over this entire thread?
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16771193&postcount=307
Also, I’ll take a win on that bet at the end of that post of mine. I fucking called it, man.
But it’s not merely subjective perception. There’s a real and significant difference between FOX News and other major news outlets, and ignoring this is a bad idea.
Link?
You’ve been here long enough to know barging into a thread without reading it doesn’t fly.
If you will take the time to read the thread instead of threadshitting, you would be aware that the issue with Fox News isn’t bias, its mendacity.
Listeners to Rush Limbaugh are better informed about US politics and current events that PBS listeners - therefore PBS is lying. Correct?
No, it is merely subjective opinion. The real and significant difference between FoxNews and other mainstream media is that FoxNews is to the right of center, and the rest are to the left.
Here you go. A very informative thread, consisting ultimately of “This is conclusive” when applied to Fox and “that doesn’t prove anything” when applied to other MSM.
Regards,
Shodan
Leave this to us, please.