Gygax and Arneson were heavily influential if not inventive of fantasy role playing. Early editions of the D & D books and The Strategic Review and The Dragon were explicit that they borrowed ideas from Tolkien, Leiber, Howard, Burroughs, Moorcock and many others. Explicit credit was more heavily given to Leiber, Howard and Burroughs, but some also given to Tolkien. Leiber’s stuff was quite good, they even got him to do a story for The Dragon (do I remember that correctly?) They were (IIRC) very good stories.
In my opinion, Gygax did not give adequate props to Tolkien for fear of litigation. They renamed the Hobbits into “Halflings” and Ents into “Treants” for the later versions. Tolkien did more work on fantasy for the modern age (1917-1973 up until he died) than anyone else by a long, long way. And he knew what he was doing, having studied old English, pagan and medieval romance than anyone else alive including C.S. Lewis.
The OP question, yes, Tolkien is the father of modern fantasy and has a better claim to it than anyone else.
Maybe the father of modern fantasy computer games and fantasy-based games (Warhammer, MTG and etc), but for novels, I don’t think so. First, D&D does not represent any mainstream fantasy novels (besides Dying Earth) - there are more Tolkien rip off than stories where the mage is called ‘Magic User’. Second, the worlds of D&D only became novelized when Forgotten Realms are out, and I think that is during the times of AD&D.
But D&D did inspire lots of fantasy RPGs - Dragon Warriors (the pen and paper), Tunnels and Trolls, Call of Cthulhu, Pendragon, Fighting Fantasy etc. I’m not sure if Final Fantasy was inspired by D&D tho.
ETA: Sorry, somehow my mind switch Gary out for D&D.
More than inspired by…the first one was pretty much an unauthorized D&D game - to the point that several monsters had name-changes (and one had its sprite changed - the Evil Eye started as a Beholder) to avoid problems with TSR.
Just a reminder to everyone that this is a resurrected thread, without any brains, so replying to old posts may not produce conversation with those authors.
According to scholarly sources*, Gygax actually hated JRRT. He said something along the lines of,“I wish I could strangle that Frodo.” So if you’re going to draw a connection here, you might want to focus on Arneson.
*One of the Uncle John’s Bathroom Reader books. What, that isn’t scholarly enough for you?
Bumping this five-year-old thread because there’s a very interesting article on authors who were influenced by Dungeons and Dragons. Turns out its influence goes beyond modern fantasy–there’s even a major journalist who considers it a pivotal influence on his nonfiction.
I accept the given that some authors state outright that they were influenced by Gygax.
What is the definition of “influence”? Does it vary from author to author?
What defining characteristics do stories influenced by face to face RPGs typically have? (How can I tell in someones writing that they may have played RPGs?)
The Conan books and stories seemed to have stand alone plots, with the hero showing that nearly any problem can be solved with enough courage and a good sword arm. He looted tombs just 'cause…
I don’t know that I have an interesting definition of influence.
Stories influenced by RPGs, specifically D&D, might have some or all of the following features:
-Prominent magic useable in action sequences by the main characters (as opposed to Fafhrd and Conan, where magic is almost always villainous, or Tolkien, where it’s epic, not combat).
-Ensemble cast of characters with a variety of skills, often unique skills.
-Clearly defined magical systems (compared to mythical magic), more like science than mysticism.
-Wide variety of monsters, some of which are not derived from mythology.
-Emphasis on individual action over military action.
THis is off the top of my head, and obviously RPGs aren’t the only inspiration for such stuff. I know that it’s fairly common to be reading a work of fantasy and to take a break to check the author’s note, where I’ll find that the author worked in the computer game industry before becoming a full-fledged author; some books just have that feel.
I can see the point the OP is making (after five years of thoughtful consideration).
Gygax didn’t invent the fantasy genre. But he probably was a major factor in moving a lot of people from readers into authors. There’s a major leap from being a consumer to being a creator. A person could read hundreds of books without making the leap to writing. But RPG’s can serve a gateway to the creative side. You’re now controlling the actions of the characters and some people are going to think “If I can do this at the table, I can put it down on paper.”
I see the point, though I feel like it’s a bit of a “No True Scotsman” sort of argument to a large extent. There’s certainly a large corelation between fantasy authors and authors who have played table top roleplaying games. But there’s probably also a large corelation between fantasy authors and authors who are fans of Star Wars, Doctor Who, Star Trek, etc. That is to say, they’re nerds.
However, I would imagine that anyone who is a good writer, has a diverse set of influences and many of those probably outshine their RPG influences. It’s the bad writers who take their RPG character and a scenario they played once, and try to turn it into a book.