I’ve heard Belichick referred to by that word and that’s when I noticed it was used all around.
It sounds babyish , like if grown men started referring to boots as booties. I wouldn’t want a hooded sweatshirt now because of what people call it.
My young adult son prefers the full length zipper style with a hood, which he and his friends refer to as a hoodie. Lately though he had taken to wearing a trilby, so doesn’t need a hoodie much.
Is a cross between a hipster and a hippie a hipstie? Just wonderin’.
As a lark, I did a search for “hoodie” on Amazon. I got 2,700,000 results.
To me, a hoodie is a pullover sweatshirt. If I want one without a hood, it’s just a sweatshirt. If it zips up, its a hooded jacket.
A hoodie is always a sweatshirt, but a sweatshirt is not always a hoodie.
A “hoodie” is a home boy, a bro in da hood. Neighborhood. Obvious.
I think hoodie, sweatshirt/pullover, and sweater all mean different things (also raincoat, zipup, and parka mean different things). I don’t know. Everyone knows exactly what I’m talking about whenever I use each. I only wear hoodies and zipup hoodies.
“Hoodie” is a slang word for one subtype of sweatshirt.
If the OP is an order-taker for a clothing sales company, it’s hardly surprising that customers are trying to use precise terminology to get what they really want, not what they fear someone will misunderstand. The OP needs to use exactly the words in the company catalog and no others, at least while at work.
The idea that the word “sweatshirt” necessarily means a hoodless garment is purely the OP’s personal definition of the word. IOW, the OP is setting him/herself up for a miscommunication with the customers.
I don’t recall when I first heard it, but I didn’t really take notice of it until it became Belichick’s trademark, and then more so later with the Martin homicide.
Hoodie’s been an extremely common term since at least the 80’s. I’m thinking it started with the rappers. In any event, it was definitely the common name for them by the end of the decade, though, at least with younger people. I’m sure the old folks that were calling pants trousers and jeans dungarees were probably slower to catch on to the term (if at all).
For me, when I say “sweatshirt,” I mean a non-hooded sweatshirt. If I wanted a hooded sweatshirt, I specify it either as a “hoodie” or a “hooded sweatshirt.” I can’t say with any certainty when I started using the word “hoodie.” I feel like it’s been more than a decade, but I have no idea. The jacket I specify it as such. I’ve called it a “sweat jacket” before, but that’s just my own vocabulary, I think, as I’m not sure I know anyone else who uses that phrase.
Hoodie is a well-known term, but I think it’s just a subset of sweatshirts rather than its own separate thing. Like squares and rectangles.
Yes now it is for better or for worse…
Hoodie is common usage here in Australia - I have a few, I call them hoodies, no one has ever said “Your what?” when I’ve done so. I hear the word used in conversation regularly.
“Sweatshirt” is considered an obnoxious Americanism, on the other hand.
Then how do Aussies refer what we Yanks call a crew-neck pullover sweatshirt?
“Pullover” would be the common term. Or just call it a “top”. When I was a kid they used to be called “windcheaters” but that name seems to have been reassigned to zip-up jackets at some point in the last few decades.
Zip-up tops usually have hoods here, so they’re just called “hoodies” - I don’t think there is an actual common vocabulary word for a zip-up non-hooded top.
As a cite, here is the relevant page from the Bonds website, Bonds being the iconic Australian brand for that sort of thing. They use the term “Sloppy Joes” as well, but that’s not so widely used in my experience. You’ll notice that the word sweatshirt is nowhere used on the site, but they have a whole page full of hoodies.
Calling items of clothing “sweaters” and “sweatshirts” and, dog help us, “sweatpants” and so on - it really looks like Americans have an obsession with sweat. OK, we all sweat on occasion, there’s no need to brag about it.
Same with the Brits and Sweatshirt. We’d call them a sweater, pullover or jumper. I have no idea if there are any distinctions between what are each of those, I’ve never really thought about it.
I’ve known it as a term for a hooded sweatshirt for a long time. And, thanks to Hot Fuzz I also know it’s used as a term for potentially miscreant youths who wear them.
Read more carefully. They aren’t specifying what they want. They are saying “sweatshirt” for both, without specifying anything else, and he has to confirm whether they want one with or without a hood.
The OP was not remotely unclear in this, so I don’t think it makes sense to lecture him on communication.