I used to wear a dark green suit at work, until the Canadian Forces resumed separate uniforms for the different services back in the '80s
Maybe. I think they may be more interested that “my wallet’s fat”…
Nice rock boogie, though.
I generally just use the same knot I learned to tie for Catholic school.
It’s the same world here, lightweight fabrics and tropical colors are available and often worn in the USA.
FWIW, I’m wearing a bow tie today.
I have a couple of them. They have little slipknot things with clasps so I don’t have to tie ‘em.
I have some of those for emergencies. But as long as my fingers work at zero-dark-thirty, I tie mine myself.
Today I’m wearing a red tie with tiny white dots on it. I was looking for my burgundy tie with the tiny four-petal flowers on it. I looked everywhere, even in my back pack. Couldn’t find it, so I wore the red one. I dripped a drop of chicharrone con carne grease on my brand new dress slacks that I’m wearing for the first time today. I opened up the front pocket of my backpack to get the Tide stick, and there was my burgundy tie.
That’s advice that my dad got back in the '40s, and tried to pass onto anyone who’d listen.
(Along with other inappropriate workplace advice, like “Don’t promote anyone who might just get pregnant and leave.”)
If one of my underlings started dressing like me, I’d notice and be weirded out by it. Same with someone who started parroting my opinions. Believe me, managers notice details, and hate any “trying to get ahead by conforming” (aka “sucking up”).
Depends on the manager. My mother tells the story of how she was promoted out of the call center, in part, by being the one who wasn’t dressed like “No one will see me anyway” but actually put on some professional attire each morning. Supervisors equated that caring about the job and took extra notice and she was the first one promoted.
Some managers also love a suck-up. Others detest them.
If you (any you) are in a customer-facing job then it’s worth thinking hard about how your actual customers will react to your chosen dress, be that extra casual or extra formal.
If I went to the auto parts store and saw 3 people behind the counter, two in polos and one in a short sleeve dress shirt and tie, I’d take the latter to be either the manager, or a terminal dork.
Punchline: In our increasingly informal world, dressing up can be a sign of class, or of social cluelessness. Be sure which one is a) motivating you, and b) will be perceived by your audience as motivating you.
Personally, I don’t precisely like to wear a tie, and I don’t precisely need to wear a tie. I see other male teachers at my school going without a tie (as well as some who always do wear one), so presumably I could, too. But I (more or less) understand the fashion rules concerning dress shirts and ties, and I completely don’t understand the fashion rules for workplace-appropriate attire without a tie, so I wear a tie.
As for “dressing like the boss”, the principal always wears a jacket, which neither I nor any of the other teachers do. And my immediate superior (the department head) and all of the other administrators are all women, and I’d probably get funny looks if I dressed like them.
I worked somewhere that went from business attire (suit and tie) to business casual, which was a disaster because no matter how many memos they write about what that is, people interpret it as t-shirts and sneakers with jeans or sweatpants. First they tried endless coaching sessions with offenders, and gradually gave up. I wound up sticking with my suits and ties, where it was safe and familiar, rather than get drawn into endless discussions about if jeans with holes in them were appropriate for work if they were $300 selvege(?) denim, or a t-shirt with logo was okay because it said Gucci when it was clearly stated only the company’s logo was allowed.
The sole downside was being mistaken for the boss when people came to our floor with some issue, and that was solved when I actually became a boss. (I never bothered anyone about the dress code, as it seemed to me if they really wanted people to look professional at work, they would have stuck with “business attire.”)
When my Mother-in-Law died, I dragged out the suit for the funeral.
I was the ONLY one (lots of people showed up, a local legend). Felt like an ass, a little bit. But the wife appreciated it, so that was nice.
Business suits/lounge suits are supposed to be casual. But, I mean, fashions change all the time.
More importantly, like you say, it is important to know your office’s dress code, if any. This guy was fired for wearing shorts: BBC News | MEDIA REPORTS | Short shrift for French engineer
One that’s about 8" too long for the wearer. Tres cool though.
That’s what it is for me; suit and tie is my uniform, that I’m ready to go.
I’ve found that slack, long-sleeve shirt (no tie), and a sport coat accomplishes the same thing and you don’t have to deal with a tie - with the added bonus of the optional “we’re hard at work now” shedding of the coat and roll up the sleeves look.
I generally avoid funerals. The idea of the dead person being present just weirds me out.
That being said, when my gf’s dad died 5 years ago it was a real shock to everyone. I chose to be present for my gf. But I do not own a suit/tie. I do own clean clothes.
Unbeknownst to me, my gf called her mom to tell her I would not be wearing a suit. She knew her mom would be a bit upset, but explained to her that I was attending, which was difficult for me, and she didn’t want her mom to embarrass me.
At the church I was surprised to see that my gf’s two brothers were not wearing suits/ties!! I took this to be support for my stance that suits were not necessary.
What I only found out recently (from one of the brothers) was that their mom called them and told them not to wear suits so that I’d not feel odd. They were really shocked by her ask, and it further reinforced their observation that their mom really loves me.
Awwww, that’s a great story. And at a time of great emotional distress. Your MIL does love you.
The last funeral I attended was for a former Big Man on Campus at our Florida condo complex where I had recently been the Head Honcho myself. He was already pretty much a dying shut-in when I moved in so I didn’t really know him except by (fierce) reputation, but I became close to his wife since we were both dealing with slowly dying spouses.
Anyhow, at his request for the memorial, not funeral, everyone wore Hawaiian shirts and shorts, floral sun dresses, etc. I had some bright floral swim trunks / board shorts and flip-flops. I fit right in w the crowd.
It did make for a more fun event. About 150 people attended; he had a large extended family and had been active in his church as well. To all indications he could be described as a fun-loving beach bum crossed with an absolute raging tyrant of a spouse / ancestor / leader. Which made for interesting eulogies / vignettes by several young adult grandkids or former co-workers.