Is it be possible for humans to create something completely novel and new that is based on nothing t

Pondering #6

Could you elaborate a little more. It could be an interesting topic I think.

If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent Nothing T.

How about mathematics? The idea of being able to not only have abstract quantities but to manipulate them in consistent operations and produce useful results. This isn’t something that exists in nature. No other species does it. So I would say mathematics qualifies as something that humans created out of nothing that came before (assuming that’s the OP’s question).

I use to watch a TV show about nothing.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

I am having a hard time comprehending nothingness as it applies here. The best I can come up with is are we capable of creating something viable with no other motivation beyond creativity. If the motivation came from just to create something new it would change this.

With a slightly broader interpretation I might compare it to using known ingredients to create a recipe not formerly known.

I think new concepts based on previously non connected aspects of reality could qualify. 

Great question, I can see myself pondering this all day.

I see that the OP has already brought up this idea in another thread.


Have you ever looked at your hand? I mean really looked? I mean, whoah, it’s like your hand is the only thing that can touch itself.

Otto? Is that you?

What about the other 25 letters of the alphabet?

A number of synthetic elements have been created that don’t exist in nature. Granted, they’re currently created by bombarding an existing high-atomic-number element with a lot of energy, but I think that at least in theory one could start with pure energy, create particles and anti-particles, strip 'em apart and work your way up.

BTW while nosing about the Interwebs looking at information on the transuranics, I came across this little nugget:

From here


(apparently, according to the saner corners of the internet, this has to do with the Koeberg reactor in SA producing unwanted byproducts. Nice proofreading, guys!)

What the hell does “pondering #6” mean? :confused:

This was one of a series of profound threads started by OP. I believe Wittgenstein used a similar numbering system.

You’re right

Back when nobody knew Y.