Huff Po was designed to counter the right wing slant of Drudge.
Well, then, where is the center? If Obama is far left, way out of the mainstream, how did he get elected? ACORN?
Media is a business, like any other. If they are selling cheese-flavored popcorn to people who don’t like cheese-flavored popcorn, they will shrivel, no? So what do you propose is the motivation? Have Marxist MBA’s infiltrated the halls of business power, warping the minds of CEO’s so that they ignore their bottom line interests in favor of advancing the cause of Socialism?
You’re not making a lot of sense here, Shodan.
What reality?
When come back, bring substantive reply.
Let the anti vacs speak. They are fading fast because evidence has disproved their claims. That is how it should be done.Not allowing them to speak would be anti-American. We are supposed to be able to voice unpopular opinions and let them die on their own. Like the tea gaggers. Bachmann and Angle should have all the press you can give them. Their idiocy should be aired as much as possible.
Your DU cite is a list of forum topics, so it takes a bit more than a casual read to figure out what you are getting at.
As for your second point, we covered that before. You seem to be complaining that corporate media is “not a liberal friend”. The assumption that the media’s duty is to serve as a friend or advocate of the liberal agenda, whatever it is at the moment, is much of the problem.
Still and all, it won’t hurt to use the tactics of the Bricker thread one more time. You have produced a cite from Democratic Underground, which you apparently believe is sufficient to refute something or other about liberal bias in the MSM. The following is completely adequate to refute you - cite. Wouldn’t you agree?
Regards,
Shodan
This is such a generalization, I’m surprised you even had the nerve to type it. Yes there are some on the far right that believe in black helicopters, the UN being a proxy for one-world-government, etc, just as there are extremists on the left who believe that the World Bank and IMF are in league to impoverish Africans and continue the results of colonialism.
I’m not one of the former, are you one of the latter?
Did you even read what I posted?
I was banned for being a “retread”- which means that, supposedly, I’d posted on the forum before and had been banned. I never had. So either you’re calling me a liar, or you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about and are just throwing shit out to see what sticks. Which is it?
On that forum, any Liberal poster is immediately met with “Retread check” posts in their “talk to the mods” subforum. THAT is partisanship. The “partisanship” you’re complaining about here just plain doesn’t exist. I’m sorry if this makes it harder for you to play the victim.
You pretty much mail in any chance you have of playing the reasonableness card or winning an argument when you call them teabaggers. This is akin to saying that Obama = Hitler - just as silly-soundign. I know that the children here like the snark and cleverness of the term, thinking that they are superior by using that word.
As for Fox News, if you are referring to Fox News Sunday, they have 2 liberals on the panel (both from NPR… but remember NPR isn’t liberal… :rolleyes: )
Maybe so, but I’m in America, we’re discussing an American broadcast Network, and for God’s sake Cecil is out of Chicago.
Don’t misconstrue this as “America = Fuck Yeah”, but… the second we start talking about BBC 4 or whatever then you get to make that kind of argument.
Well, FWIW, she did do interviews with Jay Leno and Oprah while promoting her book.
Anyway, I have a friend who’s generally a pretty nice guy and a fairly smart person. But he gets most of his news from Fox, the Drudge Report and viral e-mails about how evil Obama is, and when it comes to politics he’s as dumb as a rock.
Well if he had, I’m sure it would have no impact on his response.
It’s a conservative term.
But this is just another in a long line of factual information nuggets that you will ignore so that your preferred fantasy can remain intact.
Well, I’ve used facts in this discussion. I notice you never addressed the fact that it took ‘conservative media’, to coin a term, to uncover the Lewinsky scandal, or more recently the Justice Dept playing politics by dropping the voter intimidation case against the Black Panthers. If the situation were reversed, I have no doubt that the left would be screaming holy murder.
There is a huge part of the country that doesn’t trust the MSM, and with good reason (Q.E.D.). For those who think that the MSM is shooting them straight, read this
And even worse
If you care to address those issues in the first paragraph, now’s the time. Or you can wave the white flag. Whichever.
Its becoming clearer now! Obama? Chicago. Cecil? Chicago. Saul Alinsky and Al Capone? Chicago!
Wake up, America! Connect the dot!
You’re avoiding the question and hiding behind the Sarah Palin tactic of self-victimization.
They called themselves “teabaggers” first. It’s funny, and it’s not like calling Obama a Nazi.
That is correct, NPR isn’t liberal. having a couple of low key moderates on one show for ten minutes a week is not “engaging with the left,” and even that token is done on their own turf, under their own control.
When do you see any of those clowns like Hannity or Karl Rove or fucking Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh ever engage any opposition, or answer any questions in a setting or format where they don’t have full control of the microphone and subject matter?
Or simply repeat himself. He’s good at that.
Regards,
Shodan
There was nothing about the Lewinski affair pe se that was newsworthy or scandalous. It only became newsworthy because the Starr Inquistion used it to engineer a perjury trap. The blow job, in itself, was not worth reporting on before the perjury trap.
One item is relevant:
It is not for me, I’m making the point that conservatives have no trouble agreeing that FOX is their friend, and even liberals can see that. No such thing is happening for the liberals and any mainstream TV channel you can think of. You want to ignore it, but this is relevant to the excluded middle, a media that is centrist will attempt to be fair and miss as many news that the right wing considers important as it is missing for the left, resulting then in the next item:
And that shows that you are still missing the point, you are refuting the wrong item, I’m already aware that you can bring those cites, but that does not refute my citations.
Remember, we are dealing with mainstream network news. Both the right and the left have a huge beef with them. (And that is why I think they may be doing a good job in the end.) What you are denying is that last part. That the left does not see the MSM as their friend or ally does not exclude that a good chunk of the right also see them as their enemy.
I think my lefty credentials are in good standing, and I couldn’t have cared less. Point of fact: the New Black Panthers have no credibility or standing amongst the left generally. Many of us have some nostalgia for the Black Panther Party, for the work they did in that hardest of times. And we regret that they went totally off the rails, but they did, and that’s that. How much of that madness may be lain at the feet of thier persecutors, I leave to you.
But the New Black Panthers are a pimple on the butt of politics, a storefront organization trying to sieze upon what remains of the original Panthers mystique. Feh, says I, and Feh! says most lefty.
If you cannot read and understand our opinions, what on earth makes you think you can read our minds?
Highly simplistic response. Feel free to edumacate thyself.
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While I’m not a Tea Partier (or a teabagger, for that matter), it’s clear that it’s unnecessarily insulting and only used in lieu of real arguments by lefties.