Is Kwanzaa a joke?

I see the OP still hasn’t returned since he got dumped in the Pit, what a coward, he should run for Congress.

nm, wrong idiot poster.

We ready to label this trolling and close the thread yet?

Trolls aren’t cowards … we should keep dumping on him so he never ever posts his stupidity ever again …

Just look at how the idiot spelts … what a maroon …

We do tend to get a lot of aggrieved folks with a heavy growth of unchecked privilege passing through to complain about their victimhood.

I’m guessing it’s because of the board’s (and the original column’s) self-consciously “smart and irreverent” schtick. A lot of aggrieved folks with a chip on their shoulder like to think of themselves as smart and irreverent.

Racist troll, trolls racistly. What’s weird is he is thinking about Kwanzaa at 3am in the middle of May. Now that’s a guy with a lot going on in his life.

Oh, ouch.

So, how about that Charlize Theron?

The War on Christmas starts earlier every year too.

As long as she doesn’t start with her native Boer accent, I’m okay. Like fingernails on a chalkboard, it is.

Racist.

I thought the “Airing of Grievances” was a Festivus thing? :confused:

Being a fan of Bugs, I hate to say it, but I believe it’s now spelt “morans”.

To ask “Is Kwanzaa a joke” doesn’t even qualify as a useful question. There ARE valid criticisms, but to dismiss the entire concept as a joke doesn’t do justice to the pros or the cons of the argument.

The usual argument against Kwanzaa is that it is a recent invention and therefore somehow inauthentic or artificial. To an extent, this is a legitimate complaint: Kwanzaa does not have any precedent in African tradition. Further, Africa itself is not a cohesive culture and no one group’s holidays or traditions could apply universally to all Africans. Using east African words for a ceremony aimed at West African descendants is an odd choice, as is (for example) using corn as a ritual or symbolic food, as corn is not native to Africa at all.

Most of the counter-arguments have already been covered. There is no holiday that is not artificial. Christmas, for example, is profoundly arbitrary in that it doesn’t reflect a known date, incorporates lots of European and syncretic pagan imagery, and is wholly co-opted by annual marketing ploys. There is no inherent logic to celebrating Easter with rabbits and eggs that I am aware of. Most of the other major American holidays are either wholly the creation of retailers or are so distantly removed from their actual cultural origins that they bear no small resemblance to “Love Day” on The Simpsons. In this sense, Kwanzaa is certainly no worse than any other arbitrary holiday.

The other major criticism of Kwanzaa is the fact that it is explicitly by, for, and about Black People ™. It was founded by a black nationalist whose personal history is checkered, to say the least. The notion of a “black holiday” does cut against the idea of a post-racial world, because its existence reinforces the belief that “black identity” is separate from “American identity.” I think as much could be said for any holiday or event that reminds us that ethnic minorities are different, special or unique.

The counter-argument is obvious: We can afford to let Africans celebrate their uniqueness because literally every other day of the year is de facto White People’s Day. When black cops start shooting white people in the back for literally no reason, then we can talk. But, more to the point: Africans in America have had their own history systematically suppressed and extirpated from the history books. The dominant narrative for the last several centuries is that there are no African cultural or historical events worth mentioning, because all Africans are stone-age spear-chuckers. Attempting to uncover and reclaim a place for African heritage was a major motivating factor for people involved in the Civil Rights movement, who were brought up being told that “African Heritage” did not exist.

If a people want to attempt to reclaim their heritage and tell their children that they are valuable and have a place in the world, I say we let them.

Oh, shut up. We weren’t done making fun of the OP. You want to get serious, take it to GD. :wink: