Is "Magic of the Future" unscientific?

Just to cut to the chase:

The book is absolute Bullshit. It is utterly false. To paraphrase Mary McCarthy, every word in that book is a lie, including “and” and “the.” If it were mathematically possible for a book to be more than 100% bullshit, Magic of the Future would be that book.

John Clay, I’m sure you’re really curious about all this. Let me just say that as soon as I looked at the first page I could see this book was totally irrational and, yes, bullshit. The description of the author as the inventor of an Orgone Generator would be enough proof by itself.

I strongly recommend you do some reading, starting with The Skeptic’s Dictionary and this old Straight Dope column.

Just trying to help.

The first thing I noticed was the Kaballistic Tree of Life on the first page. People, the Tree of Life concept is a useful framework for certain kinds of philosophy, and I find it fascinating. But magic? Give me a break.

LOL - oh this gave me a chuckle!

You are aware, are you not, JohnClay, that there is no hard scientific evidence for the existence/efficacy of magic, or of paranormal or psychic phenomena of any kind?

Thanks… I normally research things like that myself but this time I got carried away.

I’d like to just retire the debate… sorry for the nuisance.

Oh, don’t retire the debate. Please explain, in either the GQ or GD thread that you have started that are the same, what the hell either of these links have to do with the topic at hand? This has also been asked by Nanado in the GQ thread. Answering either one would be nice. Honestly I just don’t get these links.

Firstly, here’s a conspiracy theory… based on anecdotal evidence (my testimony)
I found out how to enter the CTMU messageboards… even though my IQ isn’t that high

Yesterday there were more forums in there - something like “Reality Theory” and also something like spiritualsci. Anyway in the “reality theory” section I replied to a post which suggested the kabbalah could be helpful (showing my diagram of the sefirot, etc) and I also started a topic called something like “empirical evidence for CTMU? (spiritual influence)”
I said that since CTMU is based on a symbolic framework where related concepts would be close together it agrees with the idea of spiritual influence where related objects are used. (Note that “spiritual influence” just involves influence)
Well now the only CTMU stuff I have access to is the archive…
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7117/ctmu16ft.jpg
Though some of the other forums I have access to are current ones.

About the ad…
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/717/lucent29uv.jpg

Well since people wouldn’t take technology like these following links seriously: (I don’t necessarily either)
http://www.newspiritservices.com/radionicswelz2.html
(see products\psionics section)
http://www.xtrememind.com/

I thought they’d take that ad seriously.
Now remember the magazine is from March 1997.
I thought there would be a huge market for software that allows communication between all of those electronic devices.

BTW, in this thread
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=149161
it says:

But the ad says that it “really” works. Maybe they were magical communication devices that used spiritual influence for communication. (in the other links I mentions magical software and to work I think the user needs intent/desire - a magical intent/desire I guess)

wooo - the twilight zone.

Well my post about CTMU got me an invitation to
http://www.theoryofeverything.net/

But I’ve got to think of an answer to this question:
“Please tell us a little about yourself and why you would be an asset to the forum”

Yes, please answer this. I couldn’t care less about a pseudo-scientific newage* ebook, but I’m dying to know what the front and back covers of an old IEEE magazine have to do with anything. Of course, if obtaining the answer to that question will require me to rent “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,” I think I will respectfully withdraw my query.

I also wonder whether the Lucent advertisement from the second link is written like that on purpose, or if they really did hire a struggling ENL (English as a Ninth Language) student to do it.

On preview: uh, maybe I shouldn’t have asked at all.
*That’s run together as one word on purpose and pronounced to rhyme with “sewage.” Big thanks to “Penn & Teller: Bullshit!” for that one. :slight_smile:

Remembering Lucent? No, that was one of their salesmen.

neutron star:
see my earlier post
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7063270&postcount=29