Alright guys, those who are picking on Velikovsky, have you read his books? Have you read “Before the Day Breaks” which is his encounters with Einstein over on http://www.varchive.com
Einstein asked Velikovsky to make a prediction on which his entire theory hinges. He said he’ll rest his entire thoery on Radio Noises being found on Jupiter. Some 13 days before Einstein died, they of course found Radio Noises on Jupiter. You mainstreamers have come up with excuses that there was no logical reason for his prediction. Convenient for you isn’t it? Einstein was going to help Velikovsky after his prediction came true. But he died in the meantime. Helen Dukas, Einstein’s secretary confirmed it after his death. You call this cherry picking? You are OBVIOUSLY biased but you don’t see it and never will.
Einstein was no fool. He gave serious thought to Velikovsky and there is much to learn from him and Einstein said the Astronomers were wrong for not studying him. Be a good student and listen to your favorite teacher. You may learn something. Or maybe Einstein who learned something from Velikovsky was not smart enough like you are to see through after several readings what you can tell by probably reading only ONE of Velikovsky’s books…
But I don’t believe that any astronomer who went through astronomy classes will be able to look at it objectively any more than people some time ago were ready to hear that the Earth was round.
I keep wanting to stay out of this because I know how it will end anyway but I can’t keep from writing
Velikovsky had a great point when he said that Newton’s gravity came about without Newton having the benefit of a lightbulb. That was a brilliant observation. Even if the qwerty vs. dvorak thing turns out to be wrong (thanks for the ref. Is it true that the qwerty came out to slow down typing so the hammers wouldn’t jam each other or is that fake too? I can’t believe qwerty is the best design because I find it counter-intuitive even though I type pretty dam fast), the power of inertia is strong.
If you put yourself in Newton’s shoes and add electricity to Newton’s repretoire of explanations for “gravity”, you have to assume that he would have incorporated electricity into the scheme. Astronomers believe that the planetary motions are almost completely electrically inert. And they do have a good reason for it. But speak to some plasma physicists and they may show you a different view which supports Velikovsky’s ideas which may look ridiculous when you have ingrained astronomical scientific “knowledge” giving you a bias.
Einstein too, at first, (at second actually because they had met long earlier and collaborated on something), thought that Velikovsky was a charlatan. After speaking with V. you can see that he changed his tone over time. Astronomers assumed that Velikovsky did not understand what he was criticising, but he wouldn’t have laster more than 10 minutes in conversation with Einstein if that were true.
He did understand it very well and made some brilliant observations. I’m not saying that Velikovsky was right about everything. He boldly touched on so many fields he was bound to make many mistakes which he did, but mistakes notwithstanding there is much to learn in his works to this day and it is too easy and indeed unfair to brand him as a charlatan or a nonserious researcher.
I personally enjoy reading Daniken or Sitchin. It’s fun. But I don’t think they actually believe half of what they write. I think they’re smart people but they want to make money. And they present some interesting things that you can learn from if you check the sources independently and ignore their “interpretation”. But Velikovsky is on a whole other level and should not be compared to Daniken and Sitchin like many mainstreamers do. And catastrophism was in many ways the basis of a lot of his work and is neither cherry picking nor luck no matter what you say.
Only a mainstreamer would have the guts to claim when he’s wrong and someone else is right that the person that was right you’re “cherry picking” a positive result and the mainstreamer who was wrong? Oh, well guess what? Mainstream was WAY OFF. Admit you’re wrong and move on. THAT will never happen and this thread is a waste of time.