I have no doubt that Celiac disease exists. That’s not the same thing as saying that gluten is a neurotoxin.
It could be Lupus
the links 2 respond r disabled on this device; all that comes up is the option 2 respond 2 mangetouts prior post,
but as 2 the statement celiac exists but doubts gluten is a neurotoxin:
i am not the author if that publication, as stated. we were told numerous things concerning gluten, including that it is not reccomended for anyone, let alone celiacs, when considering the array of things which create leaky gut NOT limited to gluten, with gluten being one of numerous things to enter the bloodstream when this happens…& as it was explained by the author amounts to a toxin of this nature; this is how it was relayed & so, how i am relaying it. if you have further insights or opinions, your best bet is to take it up with the author, @ site noted or, with publisher:
unless we were misinformed, which i do not believe we were, this is what was relayed, which i pass on to you with best of intentions.
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the links 2 respond r disabled on this device; all that comes up is the option 2 respond 2 mangetouts prior post,
but as 2 the statement celiac exists but doubts gluten is a neurotoxin:
i am not the author of that publication, as stated. we were told numerous things concerning gluten, including that it is not reccomended for anyone, let alone celiacs, when considering the array of things which create leaky gut NOT limited to gluten, with gluten being one of numerous things to enter the bloodstream when this happens…& as it was explained by the author amounts to a toxin of this nature; this is how it was relayed & so, how i am relaying it. if you have further insights or opinions, your best bet is to take it up with the author, @ site noted or, with publisher:
unless we were misinformed, which i do not believe we were, this is what was relayed, which i pass on to you with best of intentions.
as a toddler i was suspected of being celiac, but testing was lacking & thinking on responses was different, then; testing can be impacted by inclusion (or, cutting out) of gluten in the diet & other factors, including incomplete & improper testing, other reasons & the book supports that celiac can not be ruled out 100% by testing, alone… I have a relative whom was diagnosed as gluten intolerant, although his diet was not altered; if you have a family member with such issues, your risk increases. If you ask me to cite this, I will tell you to refer to any of the sites I listed, please.
what, could be?
‘it’ you referred to.
I was tested for that & without my consent; I did not request the test, it was done without my being informed…so it seems odd you would bring this up.
Not important - never mind.
Anyway, I’d be less skeptical of the gluten=neurotoxin thing if the sources you cited didn’t have such an obvious slant. Not every evil in the world can possibly be caused by gluten, but reading those links, you’d think it was
Or, if the human race was already extinct. If gluten is such a terrible thing, how have we, as a species, survived the era of agriculture?
Like I said, I have no doubt that gluten is a bad thing for people who are sensitive to it, but that’s not all or even most people.
I would just like to add this:
Capitalization is the difference between you helping your uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
See the difference?
if u work 4 the wheat farmers of america federated, or a drs office unsupportive of the cited research, that is part way 2 explaining opposition 2 the supplied data, u requested…otherwise,
suggest u
refer back 2 what was writ prior, or, join the crowd of unwarranted criticism & popular opinion, without researching further on the topic, first…whatever is preferred, but attempting 2 engage further conversation on the topic is not only off topic, but goes against reccomendations that you contact the author/publisher with your thoughts, questions & opinions on their research…not work of fiction, but research.
this site pertains to straight scoop, does it not? well, i directed u 2 requested referrence of information. best of health.
inadvertantly snipped your reply, mangetout;
tobacco is a crop & has played a role in trade, just because something is used or ingested does not automatically equate it as indispensable or reccomended…
continued cultivation & harvesting practices endanger persons whom have allergy, sensitivity or, intolerance to gluten, it serves a threat 2 health while alternatives exist…there are a plethora of grains other than wheat, which do not pose the same risks.
secondhand smoke was felt a non threat @ 1 point, it went unrecognized, so u can start to comprehend the controversey…
i am not the author of the studies cited; is there some reason you preferred to follow up with me, rather than go where the data emanated from, which I referrenced 4 u? Thats rhetorical...
eat what you will, meat, veggies, gluten, no gluten; but be informed. THAT was my point. if u lack adequate info on the topic, u cannot make an informed decision.
celiac, gluten sensitivity & intolerance are UNDERDIAGNOSED very often, to begin with; as long as you believe the info only applies 2 ‘others’, u will never know if it applies 2 u…
or, someone u care about. LIVES are @ stake.
03:43 PM
Rick
Quote: Originally Posted by Broomstick The custom on this forum is to type in plain English. This also helps the many forum members for whom English is a second language and for whom your “shorthand” will be somewhere between confusing and totally unintelligible.
You can, of course, continue to type as you wish, however, you will also continually get comments, some of them negative, if you continue to do so. UNQUOTE
I would just like to add this: Capitalization is the difference between you helping your uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse. See the difference?
i m beginning, 2, Rick...could u cite some more examples?the slant you refer 2, is appropriate information based on accurate research…the only slant is your calling it slanted…maybe u r leaning over, while responding?
surviving by eating wheat is not the same thing as adequately digesting & processing it without harm to health. refer back 2 cellulose being indigestible, prior in the thread & in Cecils original column…the difference here is harmless cellulose versus the health threat posed by ingesting gluten, which is in more than just wheat…
& i would not nevermind, this…it is, important.
It’s never lupus.
The message that your typing style gives me is that what you’re saying isn’t very important. If it’s not worth your time to type it, why is it worth my time to read it? I suspect that you’ll find this to be a very common attitude on this board, and so if you wish to communicate with us you’d be well-advised to break this habit.
Then why aren’t more people dead from this neurotoxin? Billions of people eat foods containing gluten, so the symptoms you ascribe to it are exceedingly rare, too rare to call it a neurotoxin. Some people are allergic to gluten; that does not mean it is toxic to everyone. To most people, bread made from whole grain wheat flour is a safe and nutritious food source.
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The message that your typing style gives me is that what you’re saying isn’t very important. If it’s not worth your time to type it, why is it worth my time to read it? I suspect that you’ll find this to be a very common attitude on this board, and so if you wish to communicate with us you’d be well-advised to break this habit.
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Considering that only 9 characters were saved in writing a throw away sentence saying that it wasn’t worth typing the whole thing out I’m not seeing why a short cut is needed anyway. gluten free should just not bother with the excuse posts and spend those characters on simply typing things out fully. 
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Then why aren’t more people dead from this neurotoxin? Billions of people eat foods containing gluten, so the symptoms you ascribe to it are exceedingly rare, too rare to call it a neurotixin. Some people are allergic to gluten; that does not mean it is toxic to everyone. To most people, bread made from whole grain wheat flour is a very good food source.
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It’s not like gluten has been with the human species for thousands or even 10’s of thousands of years, you know? It’s a relatively new food source just invented 5 years ago (give or take a touch), so it’s hard to really judge how bad it is right now. Give it a few centuries and I think you’ll start to see some serious death tolls…perhaps in the trillions, if projections are right!
And just for the record, keep an eye peanuts and cheese in the future. And meat! And fish (and sea food in general)! And nuts (the kind you eat of course)! And…well, you get the picture. One word…‘neurotixin’. It’s not just a river in Egypt anymore!
-XT
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Most of the time I browse and reply on this board using my smart phone, and I can manage to create complete sentences, use capitols, punctuation, and spell words correctly. It really isn’t that hard.
I have tried to read your posts in this thread, but frankly they make my brain hurt. Text/l33t speak is frowned on around here. We use English.
If you can’t be bothered to write in standard English, don’t be surprised if people here make fun of you and don’t bother to reply to your posts.
But hey it’s your call.
Maybe what I find most irritating is that blinkie, almost completely paralyzed by locked-in syndrome, can nonetheless manage to type in complete sentences on this forum but gluten free can’t be bothered.
Really, I find the L33T-SP3AK incredibly irritating. English is my first language, yet I find it tedious to work through and nearly incomprehensible at times.
Exactly. Find a citation that doesn’t come from a website essentially claiming that gluten is the Antichrist, and it’ll carry a great deal more weight.
WTF? I work for the IT department of a local government authority in England.
You haven’t cited *any *studies. You linked to a website selling a book, and another website promoting gluten-free diets and recipes. Neither of which appeared to be explicitly claiming or supporting the assertion that ‘gluten is a neurotoxin’.
I’m not going to go chasing after third parties in support of an assertion that, so far, I have no evidence that those third parties even claimed.