So it’s settled: this thread is silly.
Good find, Martin.
Was there ever any question of that?
No, but now it’s demonstrably so.
Someone is making fun of the Blessed One?
Boo fucking hoo.
Regards,
Shodan
Shodan, I didn’t realize you liked Obama so much.
You right wingers really buy into your own propaganda that the Left sees Obama as some sort of messiah, don’t you ?
Left wing moments in movies are unbiased; right wing moments in movies are objectionable politicization.
I’ll also note that as a guy who has seen many action movies (especially in the 1980s when they were far more over the top–it was the decade that gave us the excesses of the second and third Rambo movies as well as Commando) political types are always portrayed as being sniveling cowards when they exist as characters alongside macho-military men.
Even if he is, so what? Obama needs to be abused from time to time. Right wingers are bashed in nearly every movie made.
That said, not sure Bay has ever actually been subtle.
I don’t object to a little bashing, but it should be based on some kind of truth. “Liberals are a-skeered to fight the turrists” is not based on any kind of truth. It’s also kind of bizarre to inject partisan politics into a children’s movie.
And the assertion that “Right wingers are bashed in nearly every movie made” is patent nonsense. Here is a list of the Top 30 movies at the box office right now. How many of them bash right wingers or have any political stance at all?
Hollywood is usually completely gutless about taking any kind of politcal stands, especially in summer popcorn movies.
1 Bruno
2 Ice Age:
3 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
4 Public Enemies
5 The Proposal
6 The Hangover
7 I Love You Beth Cooper
8 Up
9 My Sister’s Keeper
10 The Taking of Pelham
11 Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian
12 Star Trek
13 Year One
14 Away We Go
15 Whatever Works
16 Moon
17 The Hurt Locker
18 Land of the Lost
19 Cheri
20 Monsters Vs. Aliens
21 Food, Inc.
22 Drag Me to Hell
23 Imagine That
- Dance Flick
- Blood: The Last Vampire
- Easy Virtue
- The Stoning of Soraya M.
- The Brothers Bloom Sum.
- Every Little Step
- Humpday Magn.
- Soul Power SPC
- Unmistaken Child
What partisan politics? I thought we just covered this :rolleyes:
Also, Transformers is PG-13. Hardly your typical “children’s movie.”
Er…Bruno takes on mostly right-wing views of homosexuality in nearly every scene whereas most movies are either over the top PC or the bad guy is the white, republican male.
It’s a movie based on toys. How is it not a kid’s movie?
And the movie explicitly portrays"President Obama" as being unwilling to fight evil robots. I’m not just reading things into it. That is an overt plot point of the movie.
You’re joking, right? Or did you just ignore the several posts above that addressed and debunked this issue? It’s not an attack on Obama, let alone anything more than a plot point to enable the subsequent scenes.
Would you be taking issue with the movie has they left Obama nameless (which they might as well have, given what we know of its inclusion).
Not true. Have you seen it? There is one scene which involves any kind of political person (Ron Paul), the rest of it is more generally geared at random groups, with a couple of exceptions like a cure-the-gay preacher. Do you think the all black audience in the Richard Bey scene was a bunch of right wingers?
In any case, you’ve identified one movie that has anything close to a politically liberal stance. That hardly amounts to “nearly every movie ever made.”
What does “over the top PC” mean, and how are right wingers demeaned or insulted by it?
The bad guys are always white Republican males? Are you kidding me? Can you fimnd a single movie on that list which fits that description?
Yet you’re not upset and them showing Bush, and it was clearly Bush, as a coward :rolleyes:
Night at the museam 2 is very PC. Public Enemies doesn’t disguise it’s dislike of Hoover.
Ummm you’re having a conniption of one scene that references Obama standing down but Bruno giving Paul a strip tease is pefectly ok and just shows how stuffy Paul is?
The issue has NOT been debunked. The movie says what it says. Which of these two statements is not true?
- The movie clearly identifies Barack Obama as the President of the United States
- The movie (through a surrogate claiming to be working his behalf) ) portrays the POTUS as being at odds with the military, and unwilling to fight the evil robots.
If you agree that both of those statements as true, then the movie portrays “President Obama” as being at odds with the military, and unwilling to let them defend the country. I will say once again, that is not subtext, that is text. I don’t see how you think you’ve made it go away.
No. If they had left him nameless or given him a fictional name, I would not have taken any issue.
Just to be clear, the fact that the scenes in question were filmed before the Presidential election doesn’t impact your stance on this at all? Nor the interview with Bay, posted above, which pretty clearly demonstrates the complete lack of any political motivation?
What does “PC” mean? Tell me specifically how Night at the Museum 2 insults conservatives. I think you’re really grasping at straws here.
Are you fucking kidding me about Hoover? That’s the best you can do?
I haven’t said how I felt about the Ron Paul scene*, but one major difference is that Bruno doesn’t make any fictional claims about Ron Paul.
I didn’t think it worked, nor do I think the goal was to "show how stuffy " Paul is, but Ron Paul has made some very anti-gay statements, so there was nothing wrong with taking the piss out of him a little bit like that? Paul was not harmed or injured in any way, and obviously there was no suggestion in the movie that he was wrong to be put off by Bruno’s attentions, but he didn’t do himself any favor by repeatedly calling SBH a “queer.”