Do you think is it really possible for a child to know what they are doing when it comes to killing themselves and would they know HOW to do it?
Damn… forgot to put my cite. :smack:
Given that there are a number of child suicide cases each year, the answer must be yes.
The article adresses very young children and infants, and assuming the refences are reliable then the answer must be yes for them as well.
Is there a factual question here you haven’t answered with your own reference?
My bad, I thought I was in GQ. Sorry 'bout that.
Bloody hell! I so hope the anser to your OP is NO and i wish I hadn’t read the rest.
Yes I was that shocked at the OP I didn’t spell answer correctly punctuate “i”.
I was on another board and someone brought up that she had tried to commit suicide 4 times before the age of 6. Once when she was three. I don’t know wether or not to believe her and there are some people there that have outright said that she is lying. I don’t know if she is or not but it made me think and since the most intelligent debates I’ve seen in a while happen HERE I thought I’d ask you all about it.
Sorry about the shocker Kiwi… Didn’t mean to scare you.
Simply plug ‘child’ ‘suicide’ into Google and you will get thousands of sites showing various staitistics and case studies on child suicides worldwide. Most of the sites seem highly reputable.
There can be no debate that children can and do think about suicide and occasionally act on those thoughts. When an 8 year old puts a gun to his temple and pulls the trigger, it’s suicide. I imagine that as with adult suicide cases are officially reported as accidents where this is possible.
The fact that she attempted it 4 times (obviously without success) before she was 6, argues against children actually being able to formulate and execute a plan to kill themselves.
(Either that, or she is hopelessly inadequate and suicide is probably the most she will ever accomplish in life…)
:eek: OUCH!! THAT was bad…
Yeah… I’m probably going to get royally fucked by everyone in this thread for that. But it was kinda obvious. I mean, if you can’t kill yourself in 4 attempts you really are a loser… and to make it worse, there’s nothing you can do about it, 'cause you can’t even top yourself…
Not really, it just shows that she is female. Most (adult) female suicides are ‘failures’ in the sense that the person doesn’t die. Usually these are deliberately set up so the person will get found before they die. A surprisingly large numbr of the female suicides that do result in death have factors that suggest the discovery was interrupted by abnormal events.
A large proportion of failed female suicides (most IIRC) make multiple attempts. This woman is unfortunate, but not unique in her multiple failed attempts. The fact that nothing was successfully done to deal with the problem after the first THREE attempts is truly sad.
Interestingly the ‘failure’ rate of female suicide is so high that although most suicide attempts are female, male deaths from suicide are far higher.
No Tarantula, you’re not going to get royally fucked, at least not by me. You’ve already earned one pit thread this morning.
But a little more sensitivity wouldn’t go astray. The first joke was kinda funny (if completely off colour).
Continuing it in a serious manner with ’ you can’t kill yourself in 4 attempts you really are a loser’ is just propagating ignorance of a high level. Suicide as a subject is already borderline taboo and hence the source of more than its fair share of ingnorant beliefs already.
No need to add more is there?
** Blake **Wouldn’t this fall into the self-harm catagory, since the desired effect of the action is not death? From what you said, it seems that the only times that someone died was when the intervention was unexpectedly interrupted. So that’s not suicide then, attempted or otherwise.
Have I been pitted ??? That’s cool!!! Please tell me where…
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Sorry - scratch that last comment - I’ve found my pitting.
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Boy, was it lame. Who the hell is ** Sugaree ** ??? She could do with some lessons in how to insult people… Anyhoo - if you’re there Sugaree - join me in the pit…
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HEY HEY HEY no hijacking in my thread!! :wally
Hard to say really. The people concerned believe they were trying to kill themselves in most cases. It in’t self harm in the usual sense that the person is trying to damage themselves, these people are tryig to killthemselves. Yes it’s the cliched ‘cry for help’, but that doens’t make it any less a suicide bid. The suicide is the manner of attracting attention. These peolpe genuinely believe they were trying to kill themselves, even if intellectually they know they weren’t.
The subconscious mind does odd things. It’s a bit like asking whether a job or a marriage that one deliberately sets up to fail at is still a marriage or a job. (And there are plenty of people who have done just that with their marriages and their jobs.)
I tried suicide at an early age (but not as early as six). I susspect the attempt of someone this early age is sincere, but the attempt will be done in a ‘childish’ manner. Such as taking 4 asprin instead of half an asprin, or jumping off a swing, or holding their breath until they die. All of which will be non fatal. I can sertainly trace my depression back to early school memories from the age of four or five, so have no doubt that it sets in at a very early stage.
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I contemplated it seriousy as early as 7.
I’m pretty sure I could have pulled it off if I had firmly decided to do so as my planned method was to walk the 10 blocks from my house to the nearby 4 lane highway at night and throw myself in front of a truck.