Is President Bush irredeemable?

Let’s say that, over the next two years, the following things happen:

[ul]
[li]WMDs are found in Iraq aong with their shipping labels personally signed by Saddam[/li][li]Israel and the Palestinians form a lasting peace brokered by GW[/li][li]FEMA does a good job following the next disaster under GW’s leadership[/li][li]Osama is caught and reveals the entire structure of Al Qaeda and GW takes them out[/li][li]Monkeys fly outta my butt[/li][/ul]

…would it be possible that Bush Jr. isn’t forever reviled?

I honestly don’t think he can be. If the above were to occur, I’d think it would be his handlers that would get the credit.

He would also have to:

*Restore habeus corpus
*Dump market economy
*Re-regulate industry
*Prosecute Haliburton and Cheney
*Resign, apologize, admit he’s the worst president in history, and voluntarily accept a 10-year sentence in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass penitentiary.

And then. . .maybe.

Honestly, I’d take a sincere, “Shit, people, I woke up this morning and realized what an ass I’ve been. I sincerely apologize from the bottom of my cold shriveled heart. Let’s actually work together and listen to the military advisers and the will of the people and Congress and see how we can clean this mess up. Oh, and I’m immediately voiding all the unconstitutional acts I’ve signed into place and releasing the prisoners we’ve been holding illegally and again, I’m so, so sorry.”

For me personally, the worst part isn’t his actions (although those have been horrifying), it’s the unapologetic brashness of it all. His total screw-you-I’m-the-Decider attitude with “Free Speech Zones” insulating him from what the people who elected him (perhaps) actually want him to do. It’s like he has a 6 year old’s notion that the President is an elected King, accountable to no-one, instead of being the MOST accountable person in the US.

But I think there’s more likelihood* of Chefguy’s vision, so I’ll take that.

*That is, none at all.

Maybe if he woke up, and it was all a dream.

To be fair, don’t the abominations known as “Free Speech Zones” predate our current Fearless Leader? I seem to recall them being set up at least as far back as at Democratic presidential convention in LA in 2000.

Maybe if we woke up and it was all a dream.

Sure they do, going all the way back to Vietnam. Never said he invented them. I can understand, though not support, physical barriers keeping the protested safe from the protesters. But I think anyone, including Bush, who uses Free Speech Zones to isolate, limit the numbers and shield protesters from camera view AND from the view of the protested, while allowing supporters front line access, are assholes. Including the Democrats who did it at their convention in 2004.

Well said. It’s not that Bush comes up with new sins, it’s that he employs the old ones so enthusiastically.

I would add to my list:

Stop this idiotic program requiring (de facto) teaching our children how to take tests and instead require teachers to provide an actual education. While it provides a cottage industry for companies like Sylvan, it moves us closer to an idiocracy.

Kill the Patriot Act, then burn it.

Stop mucking around with the Constitution.

In my heart of hearts, in my most irrational fantasies, I wanted him to say something like this during the State of the Union speech, followed by, “If this were a fair world, I would be tried and executed for war crimes and offenses against humanity, but we all know this is not a fair world, so let me save you the trouble,” at which point he pulls out Saddam’s confiscated pistol and shoots himself in the head.

But it ain’t a fair world, is it?

I’m counting this as a Shrub pitting(Damn!, I miss ya already, Molly).
Moving thread from IMHO to The BBQ Pit.

Looking back, this all could have been expected. In his 2000 acceptance speech he had a real opportunity to say something like:

Instead he acted like TO scoring a touchdown.

Actually, he made at least two speaches at the time of his inauguration that made exactly those points. He then went on to take actions, beginning the very next day, that proved he was very much just a liar.

To the OP:

I think it is possible that Bush can still redeem himself. And i think its possible that he could un-redeem himself after that.

Yeah, that’s the scary part.

If he succeeds at that, we should put his face on the twenty dollar bill!

What about the $1 coin?

I think he would have to die before 2016 to get in a coin.

Of course, to be redeemable then, a Bush dollar will be worth about a Chinese Yuan. :slight_smile:

And redeem himself once again. Why not, he’s got a few years left in him.

Could Bush redeem himself if all these things were to occur? In some ways yes and in some no. I don’t think that will happen though, I think this last part of his presidency is heading full-steam ahead into what will become an infamous and embarassing trainwreck.