Is Shaun King (Daily Kos writer & Black Lives Matter activist) really white?

DNA testing doesn’t lie. Perhaps the guy had Native American, Southeast Asian, or aboriginal heritage, and that accounted for his African American appearance, but a DNA test would reveal African ancestry. Hair, eye and skin color are all caused by varying levels of melanin and someone with dark skin, blue eyes, and blonde hair would be very nearly impossible.

It’s a shame, isn’t it?

Apparently, Dolezal had the same defense - except that she didn’t even want to admit that her mother is her biological mother.

Wonder if monstro is satisfied with her defense as well?

There was another recent suggestion - by either you or someone else - that black people are harder to fool in this manner. I am a bit skeptical. Certainly nothing in the Dolezal story supports that, and it seems likely that NOI founder Wallace Fard was also a non-black who passed pretty well.

Though I suppose it’s possible that the average black person is more familiar with minute aspects of white culture and speech etc. than the reverse and this gives them an advantage.

This wouldn’t make him a liar – it could be entirely consistent with his story.

And you still didn’t answer my question from earlier – what’s wrong with race-mixing?

The truth doesn’t matter-it is the “narrative” that is important. Racism is evil; that is the important thing. Whether somebody is black or white is unimportant.

Thank you!

Not so impossible.

Well, maybe. If King held a scholarship reserved for black kids, and isn’t black, that is arguably a matter of significance. If King is a significant name in the BLM movement, but isn’t black, I don’t know why anyone should care. I’m not black and I am sympathetic to BLM. As far as I can tell, the movement is not closed to non-blacks.

Would it be news if we found out Wayne LaPierre doesn’t own any guns? Hardly. This is just concern trolling by Breitbart and other right-wing news outlets.

Also, the “truth doesn’t matter” paraphrasing of monstro is entirely inaccurate.

I agree. All she was saying - AFAICT - is that even if the truth of his story doesn’t get conclusively proved she’s still satisfied that it’s correct based on what she’s seen so far.

The NAACP cared when it came to Rachel Dolezal.

What about iiandyiiii in post # 270?

I can’t get behind any statement where telling the truth or not doesn’t matter.

The truth always matters.

It matters to SK’s mother. It doesn’t matter to SK, if he only said he was black because he legitimately thought so.

Is this really true?! There’s specific DNA that identifies someone’s ancestors as being from Africa? If so, don’t we all have it, since, as I understand it, we all have ancestors from Africa?

How about snipping text without the context that properly explains it – does that matter? Is it dishonest to quote someone out of context?

Gent, I’m giving you a warning for this. It is specifically forbidden to refer to other posters as trolls or that they are trolling. Don’t do this again.

Indeed. And if BLM cares about King, that’s their lookout.

Actually I think the national NAACP said they don’t care. It was the local guys who were not happy (though it’s not clear to me that they were unhappy with her being white specifically, or whether it was her whole pattern of deceit).

Not sure I’m following you. The DNA test would tell whether he had an African-American father. Whether or not he, while growing up, decided to self-identify as black or white was a choice he could make. Assuming he does have some recent African ancestry, he probably could have passed* if he so chose. What difference does that make?

Of course it could turn out that his biological father traced his ancestry not to Africa, but to some other part of the world where people might typically be labeled “black” if they lived in the US. But the DNA evidence will tell us that-- we won’t have to guess.

In the case of Mr. Jealous, he knew exactly who his African-American ancestors were, and although he is mostly white, he chose to identify more with the black side of his family. But at some point, there is no reason why you can’t just give it up. Once you are 15/16 white, why not just say you’re white and be done with it.

*For lack of a better word. Personally, I have no problem with anyone who is mostly white to self-identify as white, regardless of what society thinks they should be. I think we should be beyond the point where “passing as white” is even a thing.

ISTM that we already are. When is the last time you heard of someone being outed as passing as white while secretly having black ancestry? ISTM that it only works the other way around these days.