shrug More than unnamed family members and speculation based on checkboxes, anyway.
Put it this way: it’s been a long thread. Why don’t you list the evidence you believe is compelling enough to doubt King’s word, and we can take it from there? Because obviously that’s where the disconnect lies.
Ms. Pate has a birth certificate, arrest records, school records, and photos.
Shaun has nothing.
Here’s a NY Times article from 2011 that explains the process:
On College Forms, a Question of Race, or Races, Can Perplex
In interviews, admissions officers at Rice, Stanford, Emory and Carleton, as well as other highly selective colleges and universities, said they were grappling with the imperative to give students greater freedom to describe their backgrounds while also being on the lookout for manipulation by those seeking to stretch their ties to particular races or ethnicities.
The onus of determining racial makeup is almost entirely on the students; the colleges do not typically seek out guidance counselors or other adults in the students’ lives for corroboration.
“You know kids are gaming the system every way they possibly can, from private counselors who write essays to massaging their statistics,” said Scott White, a college counselor at Montclair High School in New Jersey.
Some minority scholarship applications ask for photographs to be submitted, but these college admission apps rely on self identification, and the content of the essays applicants submit about their cultural background.
You’re going back to saying he was arrested?
The police officer who filled out the victim data explained everything in an interview linked in this thread. Do you doubt his word as well?
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter. It’s not as though anyone who still doubts he is telling the truth - and prefers to accept the claims of a known racist blogger with an agenda - was a supporter of BLM in the first place.
Agreed. How is being black an advantage? For scholarship? To legitimize a movement in which both black and white want to see justice for the unjust treatment by police? The sad truth about the fascists stemming from the extreme right is their whole order of society is based on race. It was crystallized during Nazi Germany. There is nothing more heinous or more polarizing than finding out how much white or black is running through your blood. That’s why you have white supremacists still spewing their bile and people taking it seriously. That’s why you have a Birther movement whose sole mission was to under mind the President on the basis of race, since another Presidential candidate (Ted Cruz)whose father was born elsewhere was not held to the same scrutiny. Nobody in their world is as important as a white man. Everyone else has to line up on the whiteness scale. It was part of the world in 1939, it seems it still is today. So when a seemingly “white” man appears to identify with black society, he’s viewed as some how trying to cash in on a movement because in their view who the hell would choose to be black unless it was for ill gotten gain. It is all perception from a very narrow point of view, since how this man views himself and his family history can be distorted to satisfy the narrative. That ugly notion to attack family is still the most racist part of the struggle for justice.
Unfortunately we can’t change the inherent racism of people. We can only shine the light on the hypocrisy of their point of view.
Is anyone in this thread saying you can’t be look white but have close black relatives? If anything, I’m seeing people claiming SK must be black because he “looks black”. It’s also possible, you know, to look black but be white.
I think the whole system assumes that this is an insignificant problem. If masses of people organized to cheat the system, it would probably fall apart pretty quickly.
That makes no sense. The “one drop rule” is exactly what creates a situation where someone can look really white but actually be black, not to mention have close relatives who are black.
Cite that she is a “racist” blogger.
Yes – this is a remnant of white supremacism that still functions to some degree. This whole discussion is partially a remnant of white supremacism, I think.
That’s not an over-the-top characterization now, is it?
Cite? You still haven’t read Shaun King’s blog, so there’s not much I can do to help you.
However Salon states this:
Not at all.
For the millionth time, Shaun King’s blog (or anybody else’s) IS NOT A CITE. It doesn’t prove anything. Don’t they teach the difference between opinion and fact anymore?
Yes.
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No one has answered this. Why do you believe Shaun, and why should the rest of us?
I saw it on the internet, it must be true! Doesn’t cut it.
[/QUOTE]Oh Christ. You obviously don’t care that Shaun King is a voice in a movement that is having traction in political discourse. The work is truth and important, and it makes racists very nervous.
The point is that your sources cannot even meet this “pretty low standard”.
The work is truth? What does that mean?
And who are these nervous racists you are referring to?
Cite?
Yes, they do. Read the thread. The Commonwealth of Kentucky is a legitimate source. So is the police record. So is the CNN interview.
All Shaun has is his freaking blog. Which anyone can do.