Dear God, it was already annoying enough with this just at DKos. Now it’s at the SDMB too? While I have my problems with a number of things Shaun King has written, this entire story is just stupid and pointless.
Hm, a question just occurred to me: would conservative bloggers be making a big deal of this and dismissing King’s denials if it WEREN’T for Dolezal (did she deny anything before the truth came out? I don’t remember)?
So what do you want the guy to say? His mom was raped or had an affair with a black man? Would that satisfy the hoards who are only interested in this because the other shit the right was trying to say about him didn’t stick He has a right to protect his family from this kind of slander. Like really now. The guy was beaten within an inch of his life as a teenager, but the right didn’t “believe” him because they’d rather believe some shit police report that wasn’t truthful. Eyewitnesses including a teacher saw him being beat by a dozen people. The shit-ass police report said one and minor injuries, when the truth was he was hospitalized. The police report listed him as white. You wonder why? They didn’t want any “race” beating in their lilly white town. It would have made headlines that no one wanted.
His birth certificate indicates he was born to two white parents. His arrest record :rolleyes: also indicates that he is white.
These are both public records.
He is not “bi-racial”, and pointing that out is not slander.
Oh, NOW you believe birth certificates.
(I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist.)
Perhaps someone will raise the question of whether there should be scholarships that can’t go to members of a certain race.
Man, you’ve got an answer for everything. Can you tell us what the meaning of life is?
Superficially, he looks a little mixed. Very little. He makes Steph Curry look like Eddie Murphy.
Get your facts straight:
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His birth certificate does not specify the race of his parents.
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He wasn’t arrested; what you saw was from the victim information section of the police report.
I have no idea what the real story is, but is it necessary to spread inaccurate information?
There is only one public record of a person with the same name and age in the Commonwealth of Kentucky as the person reported as his father, and that person is white.
D’Anconia, does Shaun King’s birth certificate say he is white?
Okay, I feel pretty safe in theorizing that the OP’s sources are so concerned about this topic, no matter what the truth is, almost or entirely exclusively so they have an excuse to dismiss stories of police mistreatment of minorities, at least from that major source. That’s it. They otherwise don’t give a damn.
Whatever the truth is, it won’t be to their credit even if they’re right, IMO.
But that’s not what you posted, is it?
In any case, did you happen to notice the name on the birth certificates? The name is Jeffery - not the same name as the mugshot who is supposedly his father, which is Jeffrey.
I did a quick check for a Jeffery W King in Kentucky, and guess what? Feel free to check it out yourself. Plus, it’s not a given that the father would still be in Kentucky, so check out how many Jeffery Kings there are in the US.
Again, this is not to say that he isn’t lying, but the info going around is not conclusive evidence.
Police do not mistreat minorities. Are there rare cases where police mistreat people of all races? Of course. Bad apples exist in every sector of life. But for the vast majority of dealings, police officers treat people accordingly.
You know who remains the biggest threat to black people in this country? Other black people. The percentages prove that when a black person is killed, the odds suggest that it will be at the hands of another black person.
Looking for threats to back people? How about the disproportionate abortion rates among them.
Looking for threats to black people? How about gangs in major cities who terrorize neighbors, while forcing children to do their bidding. Or the countless black children randomly shot by wild gunfire.
It’s time you grew a pair and identified the real culprits.
What a wonderfully original post.
It’s extremely well thought out, not remotely derivative and doesn’t contain a single right-wing cliche.
Congratulations!
And the form doesn’t have a category for biracial or multi-racial. The police officer filling out the form had a choice of white; black; American Indian or Alaskan Native; or Asian or Pacific Islander. So if King is biracial as he claims, the police officer may have just chosen white as the closest choice of those available.
Or maybe the police officer guessed. The fact that he thought King is white doesn’t prove that King is white.
So at this point, I’m sticking with my first opinion. The evidence presented so far is not conclusive.
It sounds very much like the alleged biological father didn’t stay in the picture very long and since King has talked about what a large mixed up family he comes from I wouldn’t be surprised if he never met this alleged father and he may have several siblings who are genuinely of mixed race.
Now, White claims that at least since Elementary school everyone has treated him as black or bi-racial. Let’s take him at his word for a moment and consider some possibilities.
Is it out of the realm of possibility that his mother lied to him about who his biological father was either to cover up her own shame or to build some bonds between him and his siblings?
Is it out of the realm of possibility that going to school with people aware that he had siblings who were bi-racial/black and having skin-tone consistent with someone of mixed ancestry that he was assumed to be and treated as if he was black/bi-racial?
I think we’d all agree that such hypotheticals are very much within the realm of possibility and would be very consistent with many of his statements on twitter which I’ll concede struck me as very legalistic and almost intentionally vague particularly since he now seems unwilling to make a clear-cut statement like “my biological father was African-American.”
A friend of mine once said of Rachel Donazeal(sp) “You can’t be a black woman unless you’ve first been a black girl” and I don’t think that’s the case with him.
So far, based on the limited evidence we have, it seems likely that he’s grown up believing and being treated as if he was bi-racial.
And honestly, I can identify with him in some ways. If tomorrow I found out that my biological father was not the man I’d thought of my whole life as my father but my real biological father was some other man who my mother had had a one night stand with who wasn’t really Iranian but instead of Latino descent(to explain my skin tone) would I suddenly stop thinking of myself as Iranian, would I stop being Iranian, and would my father stop being my father and would I stop thinking of him as my father?
The answer to all these questions of course is no.
I should add before anyone wonders or asks, no for a variety of reasons I have never for a second thought the above mentioned hypothetical is remotely true for a variety of reasons.
Anyone I wouldn’t be surprised if yes Shaun White’s biological father was “white” but he’s also rather reasonably believed growing up that he was bi-racial and I wouldn’t expect him to just decide “I’m white” and kick away his whole identity and how he’s thought of himself to the curb.
It’s unlikely that there’s anyone on the planet who isn’t mixed race, to be fair.
Factual correction: Morehouse College says that it, “does not grant admissions or scholarships based on race.”. Breitbart apparently reported otherwise, FTR.
Not necessary, in light of the facts.
In general, this seems to me to be a nothingburger, unless it comes out that he dyes his skin or pretends to be blacker-than-thou. But if he actually grew up black or bi-racial, and he looks that way, then I would say he is. Race after all is more a sociological thing than a hereditary one, especially in borderline cases.
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The two brothers in the story are both white (pics in the link). One brother also says that the pic of the father in the link is correct. The father is clearly white. I am not aware of any bi-racial siblings - maybe you have a link?