No odder than an absolute belief that Shaun King and his mother are lying liars who lie.
No, I’m claiming it doesn’t meet the original criteria I asked about:
- I’m not sure why some people seem to find it hard to believe that you can look really white but have close black relatives.*
Just saying someone looks white is not even in the same ballpark as that. If anything, it’s evidence of people NOT saying that.
Lying about who the father is can be fraud. If, for example, she applied for welfare benefits.
In any case,
- The father is Jeffery W. King.
- The father is another unnamed dude.
Both cannot be true.
You asked if anyone in the thread said you couldn’t look white, but have close black relatives, in other words, be biracial. Shaun King claims to be biracial. Omar Little doesn’t believe him, because he looked white as a child.
Not really. There is no biological information or “about” on her blog, no pictures, no personal info of any kind, no city of residence listed, no credentials, no information at all about “Vicki Page”. I don’t believe that she is a real person at all, because there is no evidence that she exists other than the blog. Clearly someone is posting, but there is no supporting evidence at all to indicate that “Vicki Page” exists at all.
Shaun King, OTOH, is clearly a real person.
I tend to believe actual people rather than purported people.
It should be noted if most of the African-American posters on this site showed their pictures as newborns many of the white people would assume the person in the picture was “white” because the melanin doesn’t set in for a few days.
Also as you note light-skinned blacks as children probably do look “white”.
I’d be beyond shocked if Thurgood Marshall at five or six didn’t look much the same.
That would be a prosecutable offense? Do you have a cite for that?
Yes they can.
If Mr. King accepted the child as his own, he’s the legal father.
The biological father could be an unnamed dude.
“Welfare fraud is intentional misuse of state welfare systems by withholding information or giving false or inaccurate information.”
Welfare fraud can be a felony.
http://wane.com/2015/08/20/mother-charged-with-welfare-fraud-illegally-received-25000/
Nope.
She lied to the nurse/aide/hospital administrator shortly after childbirth OR she lied to Shaun later.
Pick one.
Nope. No lies told. Try again.
I seriously can’t tell if you’re just fucking with me now. Are multiple meanings of the word “father” confusing you?
She did not and could not have lied on the birth certificate. She provided to the hospital the name of the child’s legal father. In no sense is that a claim, implicit or explicit, that he was the child’s biological father. Whoever goes on the birth certificate does so by choice, and is the child’s legal father.
The welfare fraud thing is so far from relevance I can’t even see it from here. Red herring is red and herring-like.
Or of course, Kentucky like many states is one of those which openly labels the husband of a married woman to be the father.
Beyond that, let’s say you’re correct, which is a more likely lie. That she would lie to the Nurse’s aide while her husband was standing next to her or that she would tell her son that she’d had an affair when she hadn’t?
The hospital doesn’t ask “who is the legal father.” They ask who is the baby’s father. It IS implicit that they mean the baby’s biological father.
Recording births, including parentage, isn’t some wacky new idea. It’s been going on throughout recorded history. I’m not an Egyptologist, but I’d wager there are hieroglyphics about it. There are chapters of the Bible dedicated to the “begats.”
You’ve mentioned this before. Are we certain that was the law or custom in KY circa 1979?
Definitely, that she lied to the nurse’s aide. It doesn’t make her trustworthy, though.
They don’t care about biology, only that someone takes responsibility for future support.
I think someone already noted this earlier, but generally if a woman is married when she gives birth, her husband is presumed to be the father unless there is a specific effort made by the parents to name someone else as the biological father.
And he still has to be present and consent to be listed as the father.
I think you’re right.
Check out the legal definitions:
Legal Definition of ‘Father’ by State
While there isn’t a uniform legal definition of “father” in state statutes across the country, many states have definitions for different categories of fathers, including “putative father” and “presumed father.” Depending on what category you fall into, you may have different rights and responsibilities regarding the child and may need to follow certain procedures to establish paternity.