Don’t worry, we’ll keep pointing out the evidence over and over, trying to make it simpler and spelling out each point individually instead of trusting the reader to actually use inference and comprehension skills.
It’ll be just like you never left!
You asked why he was under investigation, I explained. Can you not even keep up with the threads of your inquiries?
ETA: Keep in mind, I didn’t mention travel plans. Also, it is relevant because the source of the infection needs to be found so it also can be tracked. In fact, there was more than one person who posted early to this topic who wondered aloud if it might have been malice on the FIL’s part that caused the infection.
I asked becuase I assumed the answer would have something to do with why he brought it up in the first place. It didn’t, so I was confused as to why it was even mentioned.
I can keep up just fine, thank you.
You have one piece of evidence that he was contagious: That he was placed under quarantine & a no-fly list. He could have been place on those lists for multiple reasons.
I have the word of multiple doctors, both before, after, and during his trip. There is only one reason any of them would proclaim him non-contagious.
I disagree.
What I haven’t seen an answer to so far is, how quickly a person can go from noncontagious to OHMIGAWD THROW A BAG OVER HIM ASAP!!! If TB Andy were, say, to get sick while travelling and as a result suffer immune compromise, would that jump-start his TB from latent to infectiously symptomatic? If so, how long would it take to ramp up from non- to contagious?
I guess you mean, 165 & maybe 170. Other than that, I haven’t been particularly rude to you that I can remember.
That’s two pieces, actually (the little ampersand there means you’re listing more than one item). And those aren’t the only items I mentioned.
But thanks for playing.
Can you, perhaps, describe any of these possible reasons? Other than your lameass “they’re covering up a PR disaster!” claim, that is.
No, you have the word of one doctor, and the claims of the guy who’s accused and the immediate members of his family, including one who is being looked at by the CDC concerning his involvement in all this.
And speaking of that…
Let me try to make this really easy for you.
Man has rare, deadly form of TB. Man’s father-in-law works for the CDC, on this very strain of TB. CDC wants to know more about this seeming coincidence. Father-in-law is investigated by the CDC. Father-in-law thus has reason to lie about this whole situation.
Therefore, father-in-law’s testimony about the situation can’t be trusted until the investigation clears him, because he has reason to be lying in anything he says about it.
Is that clear enough, or do you need me to make up a Powerpoint presentation for you about this?
My guess is that the 1 in a billion chance that he might infect someone became more difficult to accept. Either that, or the CDC anticipated the pubic outcry of a very sick but non-contagious person living amongst them.
“Any chance is unreasonble” type thing, either on their part or the public’s.
Because apparently the CDC was not expecting him to spend multiple hours in a recycled-air environment like an airplane, and when they realized this guy not only had flown out of the country, but had that drug-resistant strain of TB, they decided to clamp down on him just in case he WAS contagious.
That’s the thrust of the press conference comments, at least.
Your guesses are wrong.
I’m shocked. No, really. Totally shocked. I’ve never been more utterly shocked.
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Can you, perhaps, describe any of these possible reasons? Other than your lameass “they’re covering up a PR disaster!” claim, that is.
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It isn’t “lameass”, and I wasn’t necessarily insinuating that the PR nightmare would be their fault.
No, there are quotes form multiple doctors, one of whom happens to be the chief doctor in teh world’s foremost TB treatment facility in Denver, not counting the potential CDC tape recording. They are listed upthread.
And speaking of that…
In order to hear an explanation of why he’d put his child & grandchild and the rest of the world at risk, I’m going to need the PowerPoint, I guess.
That’s not an answer to my specific questions: Would illness trigger contagious symptoms of his TB? How long would it take him to go from dormant to contagious? What are the answers to those questions, please?
As to unreasonable, one in a billion: What proportion of persons travelling to another country do suffer an illness of some kind? Do you know? If not, on what basis do you call it a one in a billion chance?
So, are you saying that the CDC wouldn’t have placed him under quarantine & on a no-fly list if they knew he wasn’t very contagious, but only because the disease was more deadly?
I’m honestly asking.
Maybe it was accidental, not his fault, and he’s lying to cover it up.
Hey, if it’s a good enough reason for the CDC…
What grandchild? People are irrational, who is to say, hypothetically that the Father was only thinking of getting rid of the fellow he didn’t want his daughter to marry?
I don’t know. When you say “illness”, do you mean a different illness, or an escalation in the strain of TB, or another person’s illness? I don’t really know.
I was using a hypothetical. We can call in one in whatever.
His daughter’s daughter. She lives with Speaker & his wife.
Honest answer: no, I’m saying they would have done it anyway. The deadliness of the disease was the reason behind the urgency and the press conference (and is what makes him a shitcock for ducking the no-fly order), but he likely would have been quarantined and put on a no-fly list had he taken a flight against recommendations with “regular” TB.
Thanks (I mean that).
I’m pretty sure there’s a quote from the CDC that they knew he was essentially non-contagious, but that they didn’t want to take any chances with such a serious strain.