Is the impartiality of the BBC (news) a myth?

Here’s yet another example –

Interpret this as you wish – since I know you will. Here is Barbara Plett’s, BBC’s correspondent in the West Bank, report on Arafat’s departure for medical attention -

OK – she openly wept for Arafat ---- and then decides it’s important to tell the world about it. Appears like a lapse, maybe, in objective journalism — an ‘unintentional’ display to the world of emotional attachment, a possible identification with a side of a story? Ummm –

And least you think this BBC reporter is oblivious to Arafat’s atrocities – well she ain’t – but that seems to be wiped away by Arafat’s lack of “cowardice.”

“No one could accuse him of cowardice”?? I’m sure it really does take balls of reinforced titanium to break into a house while the occupants sleep ------- or steal millions of dollars from ‘your people’ -

Linked directly to the BBC report – A masterpiece of objective reporting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/3966139.stm

What? You mean three BBC officials were unjustly forced to “resign” by the BBC? Three BBC forced “resignations” all within three days of the publication of deeply flawed Hutton Report? It’s worse than I thought at the BBC!

Excuse me? You understand that, when you have those kind of jobs where you are in the public spotlight, a resignation may be necessary if you feel that your ability to do your job has been compromised, or even if you feel that there is a perception that your ability to do your job has been compromised. Greg Dyke and Andrew Gilligan have both made statements since their resignations defending their actual record and the original story itself.

Here is a link to a transcript of Gilligan’s original Today report by the way. As I said previously, the language used could certainly be a bit tighter (it was an unscripted and live report), but the allegations contained have all been proven, either in evidence to Hutton, by the Butler report, or subsequent statements, to be entirely accurate. Are you disagreeing with that?

I can’t really say. I don’t have BBC except at work, and then I rarely watch it. And Liz Curtis’s book was last published in 1998.

Of course it isn’t an objective piece. It’s someone writing about their feelings on Arafat’s death, and the mood in the West Bank. There is nothing wrong with publishing opinion pieces. A good example of this was the US election coverage. The BBC asked 6 Americans to comment on the debates and issues around the election - 2 Republicans, 2 Democrats and 2 Neutrals.

Arafat’s obituary on the BBC is a much more balanced piece. BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Obituary: Yasser Arafat

Personally, I tend to think he was a liability to the Palestinian people.

Precisely - it’s not her ‘report’ at all. It’s her article for From Our Own Correspondent: an opinion slot.

But if that’s the case, surely they should put something like “From Our Own Correspondent. Personal reflections by BBC correspondents around the world” at the top of the page??

Personally, I read it as an opinion piece without having to hunt for a title. But it does say in big letters top right.

“From Our Own Correspondant”

“Personal reflections by BBC correspondents around the world”

Thats pretty clear.

Sorry Avenger, missed the sarcasm. :smack: Got your username mixed up with Tigers for a moment.

A google search reveals a fair amount of blogs alleging anti Israeli bias. It also reveals some sites alleging pro Israeli bias, including, interestingly enough, a study from Glasgow University. According to this Guardian article, The anti-war movement accuses the BBC of having had a pro-war bias; the government says it was too Baghdad-friendly.

Its impossible for any broadcasting organisation to be free of bias. Individual jounalists, editors etc have their own biases and this will be reflected in their output, however hard they try to not show it. All you can hope for it that the organisation involved tries not to show systematic bias, bu reporting both points of view etc. The fact that the BBCs output is viewed as pro war, anti war, pro israeli, anti israeli etc at the same time, by different people, shows it must be getting it about right.

Where are all those deep flaws Avenger? Those deep flaws that the BBC ignored when subsequently forcing the resignations of three top employees? The deep flaws that lead to the “resignation” of the BBC’s own Chairman and then lead the BBC’s own Director General to issue this BBC apology for the false coverage –

“The BBC does accept that certain key allegations reported by Andrew Gilligan on the Today program on May 29 last year were wrong and we apologize for them.”

Again, the primary point here the BBC’s alleged internal inquiry (which was no actual inquiry at all) is evidence of procedural problems at BBC – procedural problems that seem not to have been fully corrected even as late as this month (see the BBC Case of the “Elaborate Deception” – described in a post above).

Forb those interested - here’s a link to the Hutton Inquiry itself —

http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/

Or - here’s a pretty good outline of the affair described in the Hutton Report — show me what you’re talking about – as it applies to the subject at issue -

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/710rcvzt.asp?pg=2

Ah ha ha! The Weekly Standard! Murdoch-owned press in anti-BBC agenda shocker!

If there were no flaws in the Hutton report, how would you explain it’s widely-held status as a government whitewash? A report that is so universally ridiculed must have something wrong with it surely?

I’m not sure that sentence actually makes sense. But the subject we are discussing is the impartiality of the BBC.

‘Nice’ ad hominem argument -

Sweet ad populum argument –

But abject failure at discussing the merits of your assertions -

No it’s not. The Murdoch press cannot be claimed to be objective when discussing the BBC.

It’s a shame but some people don’t count blogs as as citable as the mainstream media, even when the blogger gives their name. Bloggers are just as liable for libel as anyone else.

The Falklands gives a classic case of anti-Tory bias by the BBC: an author, Ian Curteis, had written a play and it was blocked because it was pro-government. It was finally broadcast many years later.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/features/the_falklands_play_four_facts.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/1925836.stm

I haven’t seen the work in question, but all of your cites say that the play was initially shelved because it was felt to have a pro-tory bias and was due to be shown in the run-up to a General Election. If we are defining not showing something that is judged to be biased as bias against the entity that the bias was in favour of, then there’s not much hope for anything to ever be considered unbiased!

They could have shown it after the election, not the thick end of 20 years later. One of the cites also states:

(bolding mine)

I think that this shows that at the time at least one part of the BBC was biased.

No it doesn’t. If the play was as lopsided as your cites suggest, it would be perfectly unbiased to demand it be moderated if they wanted it played. Or would you consider a network adaptation of Coulter’s works to be unbiased?

Not necessarily. Depends if they would have also shelved a play they felt was too pro-Labour. The BBC is supposed to be impartial, so I can understand them being wary of putting out anything too controversial near to an election.