The problem with theories that Oswald was working with some group is that there’s no evidence of this. And there would be evidence. Oswald was not a loner. He was a married man. He was close to his mother and brother. He had friends he socialized with. He had a job. If Oswald had been meeting with mysterious people or receiving mysterious phone calls or letters, there were plenty of people around him who would have noticed it.
Well, there would have had to be an authorization memo, funding requests, travel receipts, etc. Presumably Oswald was not selected through a competitive process, so there would have had to be a sole-source justification. Assassinations don’t plan themselves, and without this documentation, people could get in real trouble.
Shredded, shredded, shredded, and the people who did the shredding have been terminated with extreme prejudice. Which leads us to the free space on all the CT bingo cards:
The lack of evidence of a conspiracy is the proof of how deep the conspiracy goes!:eek::eek::eek:
Yeah, cause wives always know when their husbands are having an affair… :dubious:
I love it!
Are people forgetting he went after Walker first? If he got any support from Cuba, it can’t be for killing Kennedy himself, since that was pretty much a chance opportunity.
At most, I could see the idea they encouraged him to do something to prove he was worthy to run off to Cuba.
Go ahead. Try to leave the house for a few hours a couple times every week without your wife knowing. She may not know if you’re having an affair or meeting with your KGB handler but I guarantee you she will notice.
And the people who killed those people were killed. Then the people who killed the killers were killed. And so on.
The real secret behind the Kennedy assassination was that it was a plot to reduce the number of people on the government payroll.
Philip Shenon’s “A Cruel and Shocking Act” examines the Warren Commission pretty thoroughly, mostly from the point of view of the young lawyers who did most of the investigating and wrote the report. It reveals some disturbing (though probably not that significant) lapses in the work of the commission.
The lawyers were enthusiastic, but inexperienced, and were repeatedly shut down or led astray by the FBI (who were protecting their reputation after some astonishingly bad field work) and the CIA (who were hiding their activities in Mexico). Warren was overworked and uninvolved, and overly solicitous of the Kennedy family. The other senior commissioners were politically motivated to manipulate the work of the staff (Gerald Ford was J. Edgar Hoover’s man on the inside). The investigators were prevented from digging into Oswald’s visit to the Cuban embassy in Mexico in September 1963, as well as his dealings with possible Cuban agents in Mexico. Lyndon Johnson (and Warren) pushed to get the whole thing finished before the elections.
Ultimately, there is no evidence that the Warren Commission was wrong - just a lot of unanswered questions that indicate that the commissioners and the staff were not as thorough as they could have been. I still believe that Oswald acted alone, and I agree with the assessment that the Cubans thought that Oswald was too unstable and unreliable to hang any plans on. But there’s a very real possibility that they offered him encouragement to act on his own, and we’ll probably never know for sure.
The case is most likely closed, as others have said. It’s hard to imagine anything that might be substantial enough at this point to warrant another official look into those events.
I am far from an expert on the matter, but like anyone else, I have always found it interesting. Personally, the accidental shooting theory put forth in the book “Mortal Error” has always been attractive to me. It just feels more plausible than a great many other explanations. But I don’t keep up on these things, so that may have been put down years ago. 
There was the time I got stuck waiting 5 hours for my truck to get worked on in a driver’s lounge with a CT who was convinced the Gumment was disappearing people and the proof of the cover-up was that there was NO evidence". If it wasn’t for earphone jacks on my laptop…
I’ve mentioned before about a coworker who was telling me his theory back in 2000 about what was really going on behind the Presidential election controversy. He thought it was all a conspiracy by Congress so they could declare there was no President and “take over”.
“So you’re saying it’s a conspiracy by the United States government to take over the United States government?”
“Well…it sounds stupid when you put it like that.”
Other than fully exploring and explaining LHO’s motives, I can’t think of a significant unanswered question. Claims like those you’re citing tend to come from a “Warren Report is crap, let’s explain why” mentality that has no real idea how thorough and deep the investigation was.
Once you hammer in the idea that the WC was shoddy, hasty, whitewashing, inept, scanty, etc. - door’s open to any kind of nonsense you care to shovel in explaining a “why” that doesn’t actually need explaining. And the CTers have been very, very successful at building that platform in the public mind, probably not one in one hundred of whom know the report is 22 thick volumes plus a summary, not a… memo.
As noted, the “first order” conspiracy stuff is rightfully debunked. LHO acted alone, did all the shooting, etc.
The issue some have is the “second order” conspiracy. There were a lot of people who when they heard of the assassination immediately thought “I bet Lee Harvey Oswald did it.” There were “Uh-oh, we’re going to be in trouble for letting this happen.” panics all over the place. So, all sorts of Not Good Things happened to take care of it, as it were. We really don’t know much about this. We never will.
That Jack Ruby was able to walk up and kill the guy just highlights how bumbling all these people were.
Plus there were so many odd things. E.g., just look at the Wikipedia page about George de Mohrenschildt. This guy was knew the Bushes and Jackie Kennedy. Rabid anti-Communist yet somehow befriends the Oswalds. The page doesn’t mention it, but his wife ran the department at a local store where Abraham Zapruder worked. Etc. Really odd, odd stuff. Conspiracy theory food to the max.
But if you dig into anything hard you could find similar oddities.
To me, the only question I want answered is where was George H.W. Bush on the day of the assassination? He claims he doesn’t remember. Right. Why on Earth would he lie about something like this? Was he somewhere that would officially reveal his early CIA contract work?
In fact four leaf clovers aren’t that rare. As a child I sometimes searched fort them, and it typically didn’t take more than a dozen minutes to find one in a clover field.
No information about Kennedy’s murder, sorry.
In your link it says the author was the only sharpshooter to be able to beat 3 shots in 5.6 seconds.
With the help of Penn and Teller I call bullshit.
All I can say is that must be a pretty shitty group of “sharpshooters”
Also didn’t it turn out to be only 2 shots in that time period…
Not exactly, but you have to count the firing of shot one as zero seconds. So it’s two more shots in almost six seconds… absolutely no big deal.
Ah. So Oswald only had to cycle the bolt and aim twice in 6 seconds, giving him about 3 seconds to do it, and wasn’t he at less than 100 meters? In the military, they have a target at 50 and 100 meters. Only the head and upper torso of the target is exposed. They call it “fast freddy”. It is a trivial target to hit - you literally cannot miss with the M16 and iron sights. The only thing that makes it difficult is the target pops down relatively fast, and if you are slow to line your rifle up with it because you didn’t spot it, it’ll already be down before you fire.
So it was Ronald Reagan and the Republicans!?!? :eek: