There’s a funny thing about science: it doesn’t rely on a popularity poll of those who haven’t a clue.
I hope you’re joking from one end of this post to the other. But I suspect not.
Who are these “most” that you speak of??
Because the “most” that I know of are at least relatively intelligent, at least relatively well read or have at least explored what the arguments and answers are. And that “most” are 100% certain that LHO was the lone gunman who killed Kennedy.
When people trot out the “most” or “unanswered questions” or “all we don’t know” words and phrases it makes it appear that all of these unknowns are out there waiting and begging for explanations. The answers are there, they have been learned and vetted and found to be logical and correct.
My frustration is that some 15 year old will read your post or one like it after a Google search and exclaim SEE! We still don’t have the answers! Conspiracy!! and off we go again.
And 6% of Americans believe that the moon landings were faked. I guess there is only some much you can hope for. :smack:
Back to the OP’s question: Is the Kennedy Assassination a closed case as far as the US Government is concerned?
We have to define U.S. government. It is far from a cohesive unit. Official pronouncements may often differ from personal, private feelings and beliefs. Most officialese is for public consumption to make everyone at the top seem clean as the proverbial whistle and honest to boot. When we know this is not the case.
As well, new evidence can always open a cold case, and especially technological advances in science and detection can and do cause the re-opening of many old cases. I am thinking DNA. Or we can go back in the past to the use of fingerprints.
Who knows what science has in store for us next?
What does any of this gibberish mean???
Is the case closed as far as the government is concerned? Yes.
Are government officials like the rest of us, in that they have opinions outside of work? Well, yeah. Does this portend that there is some evidence of a vast conspiracy just over the horizon? Of course not.
It’s been 50 plus years, an investigation headed by a Chief Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court that included a future President of the U. S., a Congressional investigation and probably thousands of books on this. And surprisingly enough, after that we are still left with the fact that LHO alone killed the President.
But I’m sure the real truth is just a week or so away because some GS-10 working in the Department of Labor is on the case.
Please just relax. The OP itself is a public menace to you then. Why don’t you protest that?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/165893/majority-believe-jfk-killed-conspiracy.aspx
Do you really not think it’s common to believe in a conspiracy?
I am completely sure that Oswald wasn’t part of any cabal and that he fired that rifle. My question is did anything else go wrong in the event. I’m not up on the anomalies right now but if you want me to I’ll take a look.
Why do you assume it would be a state secret and never come out? Having the president killed accidentally by his own security detail would be tragic and unfortunate, but it wouldn’t have to be kept secret. I think a lot of powerful people would want that information out, if not because it’s the right thing to do then because it would put to rest other conspiracy theories. And they would get to pin it all on one hapless officer, tying it all up neatly. Authorities love to do that.
It was once common to believe that the earth was flat. Is that the yardstick you want to use?
Or as my operations analysis professor used to say:
“50 percent of the people are dumber than the average guy.”
Relax man. I was answering your question, quoted here:
“Who are these “most” that you speak of??”
If you don’t like the answer why did you ask?
You really have a hard on for people asking questions don’t you?
I have a hard time with CTers who by definition don’t do their homework.
It couldn’t be kept secret, if there were any evidence of it.
No, some nut would just say it was a cover-up, just like they do now.
Regards,
Shodan
What paradoxical events??? There is nothing at all to be further explained as to what happened in Dallas on that day. The Warren Commission basically got it right.
They did an amazingly thorough job. Way too many fail to appreciate just how detailed they were. They went thru everything Oswald did financially since coming back from the USSR and got an estimate of how much money he had and was off $18! They interviewed a huge number of people. Got help from a lot of experts. But the myth persists that it was a quick and dirty job. If you hear someone say that, walk away. They don’t have a clue.
The HSCA also did a thorough job but made a major goof, as mentioned.
It is all explained.
The idea of multiple shooters is absurd. Two people shooting at the same time???Miracles don’t happen. A troubled person at the end of a downward spiral had a fluke of an opportunity. That’s it.
Too many people can’t accept that such a huge event was caused by such an insignificant person. That’s the underbelly of history for you.
What are these confessions (multiple) of which you speak?
E. Howard Hunt (deathbed)
James E. Files
Santos Trafficante (deathbed)
Carlos Marcello
to name a few.
So, how does any of that disprove the physical evidence which points to the consensus story being true?
James E. Files? You’re hanging your hat on James Files (a convicted felon in prison for the murder of two police officers), who, per Bugliosi, “very few within the community of people who believe there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy respect him or his story.”
So the fringe CTers don’t even believe this guy but you find him credible?
I’d submit there is no amount of evidence that would ever change your mind.
Note here the affirmative assertions that there are paradoxical events and that there has never been an explanation. Note further the unspoken assumption that malign attribution of motives, real or imagined, is the same thing as evidence.
Note the game-without-rules pseudo argument that attributes a hypothetical response to a hypothetical argument, and then treats that imagined response as though it somehow supports the original hypothetical. Drad dog’s argument resolves to: IF an accidental bullet hit Kennedy, THEN the evidence that points to one shooter would be wrong.
If.
Note the bizarre proposition that extends the OP to ridiculous lengths (a public menace, no less) then implicitly insists that unless the opponent behaves in a way that conforms to that characterisation, the opponent is inconsistent.
Note here and in the subsequent post a claim to the high emotional ground. I’m cool. Why aren’t you? Because, like, people who are cool are more likely to be, like, right. Of course, an arguer’s emotional state has no bearing on whether they are “right”. This is a standard debating technique seen among fundamentalists, CTers in general, and bad debaters in general - goad and trap the opposition into a debate about side issues, in this case who has lost their cool. It has a superficial appeal to entertainment values, but none at all to intellectual ones.
To adapt some wisdom from Game of Thrones- “Does it suit drad dog to pretend this debate is about who is the most relaxed? Well, we won’t be doing that, then, will we?”
One can understand that people who take the public discussion of history seriously might well be annoyed by someone who adopts the very style of argument (and I use that word quite wrongly) that may well have contributed to the embarrassing numbers of people who will apparently believe nonsense.
Note again the goad to derail the debate.
Note the misrepresentation of drad dog’s argument as “Just Asking Questions”. The clear assertions noted above and the inescapable advancement of the “accidental shooting” hypothesis make it plain that drad dog has an agenda.
When one adds JAQing off to an admission in the quote one above that drad dog isn’t up on the anomalies right now, one is driven inevitably to conclusions that should best be drawn in a different forum.
Noel Prosequi: That was an incredibly accurate dissection of the nonsense presented by dd. You left out one thing though.
Why would there be any excitement among “the officials” before the Prez was shot? The only officials who’d be packing, of course, would be the cops and the Secret Service. dd’s “theory” boils down to: Kennedy was shot by a cop because that cop got excited when that very same cop shot Kennedy.
Hey, I like fiction as much as the next guy, but even fictional stories need to have logic. Otherwise, they’re just stupid. And anyone who persists in perpetuating them as though they’re fact is just embarrassing themselves.
I thought I remember seeing in the movie that everything will be revealed in 2038 or 2058 because by that time everyone who was alive during the time of the assassination will be dead.