I was wondering about that. But why would they need to sit him up in order to photograph it?
That precisely describes an incident from Thomas Harris’ Hannibal, so I suspect it is faked up, or even some makeup work from the upcoming movie.
Scott
I remember my JHS science teacher reading that entry from his medical textbook, but refusing to show the picture. It happened in 84 or something? I’ve seen it, it looks kinda fake, but it WAS in a textbook.
–Tim
That fact that four people think the picture is a fake is a bit worrying. I mean, is their faith in Photoshop that good? It’s a Luddite/Technophobe prediction that people will sooner or later lose faith in reality because of digital manipulation because it devalues the worth of photographs and nobody will be able to work out what is true and what isn’t. But that photo doesn’t seem to be about morphing, masking or brush tools to me. Tell me how it could be.
Yeah I was just about to say that, since I remember that scene from reading Hannibal.
I’m also kinda wondering- who takes pictures of these people with such injuries? To scare others or something? What’s the point, really…
I heard that the injury was caused by him trying to commit suicide by gun under his chin. It exited out the front of his face instead of going up into the brain. The eyes got me too…he seemed so lucid. Maybe he’s in major shock.
Really? Like a ViewMaster? :rolleyes:
I think the pic is real. No matter how good a photo doctoring job would be, it wouldn’t represent the underlying anatomy of the face well. The anatomy is clearly visible in the photo. In the center right and left of the pic, the nasal turbinates are clearly visible (the are red-like everything else in the pic, and paired, and located to the side of where you imagine a nose would be). You can easily see the tongue. And if you follow the tongue to its base, you see sort of an M-shaped arch over it. That’s the palatoglossal arch and the thing hanging down in the center of the arch is his uvula. Just have someone open their mouth and look in and you’ll see this stuff. I tried to find a good pic online with facial anatomy, but failed. If you have access to a medical library, though, Frank Netter’s “Atlas of Human Anatomy,” will show all this stuff and more.
As for how he’s sitting up, I can’t say I’ve had alot of firsthand experience with folks with this kind of injury, so I’m not sure. But assuming the guy can breathe, suffered no huge blood loss, abdominal/thoracic trauma, or spinal or brain injury, why not?
Poor guy, though.
Can someone please email me the link
In the academy they showed us a video about an officer who was shot in the face by a shotgun. It blew off his lower jaw and nose and really messed up everything else. There was an interview with the guy at the end of the video. Very disturbing…
This poor guy was a very good looking person and he was really young. Luckily he married the right person because she stuck with him and is still his wife to this day.
So I can say for sure that it is possible to have your face seriously destroyed and still live. Don’t know for sure if your picture is real though. But I would like to compare it.
[Bear/b] snopes the thread that has been running on snopes.com since August. Make of it what you will.
audreyk
read the new york times magazine from about a month or so ago. it describes the tale of a woman who was sent flying into a wall at 75 miles an hour, face first. the impact was such that only her face absorbed the impact with the concrete.
as to the picture, I’ve seen it, and I’m positive the guy has a look of extreme pain in his eyes. he may be in shock, but his eyes tell it all.
jb
I’ve worked in hospitals for over 20 years. The picture is real. Two things confirm its authenticity:
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As choosybeggar expressed so well, the anatomy is 100% accurate. Couldn’t have been faked.
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There is significant swelling around the “wound”. Most people wouldn’t have known to include such a feature if they were faking it. I’m not sure, in any case, that you could fake the appearance of swelling.
BTW, after seeing what it has to offer, I can say that the rotten.com site is possibly the vilest stop on the Web. Forget about sex, this is the type of stuff that kids shouldn’t see.
After that snake photos, I’ve been skeptical of a lot of rotten.com’s stuff. It seems like the only time you can be sure their stuff is real is when the person or their families come forward to sue.
If the photo was not faked, then I have to doubt that he was in a motorcycle accident. I would have to lean towards what popokis5 said: that it’s a gunshot wound from a suicide attempt. His wounds look more like an exit wound than an impact wound. It would explain the lack of bruising on his neck and chest that he should have gotten if this was an impact injury. It would also explain how they could sit him up like that without fear of aggravating a neck or spine injury, which he definitely should have sustained if this was an impact injury.
Of course, I’m no pathologist, but something about it just doesn’t seem right. Well, something other than the picture itself…
G. Nome– I was thinking along the lines of make-up and prosthetics, not Photoshop manipulation.
My guess would be that it is fake. The blood just seems too consistantly the same color. There just doesn’t seem the be any of the almost black color that dried blood turns too, and if they had already cleaned the dried blood off, then I would hope to hell that they would be trying to stitch it up rather than photograph him sitting up, after he must have lost a huge amount of blood.
I don’t believe it’s really a picture of someone who cut his face off to feed his dog, but that picture and that story were common on alt.binaries.pictures.grotesque long before Hannibal was published.
is this it?
that guys face is scary and gross…so watch out!
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[Edited by Chronos on 11-11-2000 at 02:11 PM]
PuRpLe PrIdE, I refer you to my previous post in this thread, where I specifically asked that nobody post that link. If you have doubts as to whether that’s the same picture that the OP is asking about, then ask via e-mail. There are some forms of content which really aren’t appropriate for this message board.
“I’m sorry, but that picture is definetly fake. You would see pain in the man’s eyes”
An injury like that and you need to look at his eyes to see if he’s in pain?
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- If what you’re asking is why isn’t he laying on his back like normal, they put him on his front because if they laid him on his back, he would choke on his own blood. - MC
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If the picture is based on a scene from HANNIBAL, could anyone quote a short passage from the book where this scene takes place?
I can’t decide if this makes me more or less inclined to go see the movie.