If ‘The People’ decide en-mass that they no longer need any governmental structure is their a legal and peaceful way to accomplish this? (no 2nd talk here)
Yes. Call a Constitutional Convention, have the new Constitution say “The United States is hereby dissolved. See ya, suckers. Last one to leave please turn the lights off”. And have this approved by 3/4ths of the states.
How is this accomplished ‘by the people’?
How is it not? Presumably the state governments would be on board with it too in such a hypothetical scenario. If you are implying that 13 of the smallest states could block the this strategy against the the will of the majority, then yes, that would be the case just as it would be for any other legal and constitutionally based scenario.
IF the people have decided “en-mass” that they want the governement desolved, the implication is that representatives would be willing to excercise the process in Article V. If not, after the next election, new representatives would be in office and willing.
There is no quick, legal and peaceful way to desolve the government.
The ultimate power, in theory, is to the people, I wanted to know if the people have the absolute right (again in common agreement) and procedure in place to end the government directly and peaceable.
In whose theory?
There is a procedure in place right now that’s been described above. If you’re asking if there is a totally separate, duplicate legal procedure to do something in a way that has never existed at any time in the United States and would be contrary to all law, then the answer is no.
The procedure above mentioned use of state governments, I am asking about a direct peacefully direct way of the people directly ending the US government directly.
There is no secret cheat code to shut the government down. When you say “The People”, what percentage of the public are you talking about?
90%?
75%?
50.000001%?
The people shouting the loudest that you happen to agree with?
Yes. If an alien hive mind made us all zombie slaves with no free will, they could order everyone to stay home. What you are suggesting goes against human nature.
Simple answer. NO.
If you want a practical example, if other governments were ended world wide, some by bloodshed, others by right, and the people prospered beyond imagination, what would be the recourse of the citizens of the US to end its government peacefully and assuming the government has a vested interest in keeping itself in power?
There is no way for “the people” to directly pass any legislation at all at the federal level. Such a process is called an initiative. The United States has no initiative process at the national level, but the initiative is in use at the level of state government in 24 states and the District of Columbia. California is the state which usually comes to mind here.
You start your sentence with “If you want a practical example…” then follow with the greatest non sequitur since my sister found a stray cat and made cookies for our next door neighbor.
You know I aim to please:)
TY, this is what I needed to know, alien takeover it is then.
Then accept that the one and only answer to your question is “no”, and move on. There is no magical way to reform, re-explain, reformat, add, or subtract from your query to make the answer “yes”, because the answer is still “no”.
The only way to do it would be the way we did it in the first place. Call a Constitutional Convention, totally rewrite the Constitution to come up with a new form of government, and then have it ratified by 75% of the states.
There ain’t no other way.
To expand on what’s already been said or implied, the established process (convention, followed by ratification by 3/4 of the states) is how one would know what the will of “the people” is. Otherwise how can we know? It’s like demanding to know what someone else thinks or feels – there’s no absolute way to do it, the best we’ve got is “ask that person.” The convention and ratification process is how we would ask.
Someone takes out an ad in the New York times saying that the government no longer exists, other new organizations across the country publicize it. Everyone agrees its a good idea. The army, police, and other security forces voluntarily disband and go home to raise cucumbers leaving only Congressmen and executive staff in office with no one listening to them.
Is this what you had in mind?