Is there a reason that titles cannot be edited in the 5 min window?

I often see mods having to correct topic headings for typos, etc at the request of a member. Is there some reason that when someone notices within the edit window that they’ve mistyped something in the title that they are unable to correct it for themselves?

It’s just how the software works. The title you give titles the thread as well as putting a title on the post. Editing aftwerwards, however, only changes the title on the post.

The IT people don’t really want to use mods, so they’re stuck with how the vBulletin software works.

I ws under the impression that they could be, but you have to go down to “Go Advanced” in the edit page.

The problem for me, is that the title text entry screen is too short, and after typing it, typos near the beginning have disappeared from view. Then you don’t see the error until it is sent.

Use the back-arrow button to move the cursor back to the beginning to see that text again.

@jtur88: Nope.

As BigT says, there’re really two titles: The outer one that appears on the forum contents page and at the top of the thread page in the breadcrumb area. There is a second, inner, title that appears at the top of the first post.

When you submit your OP both titles are set to whatever you had entered in the title box. The first, outer, title is then locked down. Under the edit page’s advanced screen you can change the second, inner, title. But not the first.

Here’s an example from a thread I made yesterday. I saw the typo in the outer title after I’d submitted. I went back and edited the inner title but was stuck with the typo in the outer title.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=820261

The smart money will always [Go advanced] or [Preview Post] and review everything before posting. Now if only I could become part of the smart money. :smack:

As an experiment, I tried to fix that for you. Oddly, when I changed it the saves didn’t work because you had already made the edit so when I hit submit it didn’t take. I had to edit the title to something new, save it, then edit it back to the one without a typo. That was interesting.

Nah, any admin can change the time-limit from here to eternity in Options.
Same with this board’s ridiculous 5 minute time-limit on editing posts. *

  • Message posting and editing options > Time Limit on Editing of Posts. They just aren’t very bright around here.

That was from memory, I’ve looked further to find a cite:

*Message Posting and Editing Options" we can calculate (in minutes) the “Time Limit on”:
Editing of Posts
Adding a Poll
Editing of Thread Title
*
vBulletin forum

nm.

Not much of a cite since it’s to a question asked in a forum about future potential features for a version we aren’t using. And the content of the question points to the behavior of the exact feature you’re citing not working in the way the questioner expects it to.

Not in the slightest; and I find it odd you misread it.

The question is not saying anything didn’t work. And that would be difficult, since it’s basic programming. He is soliciting opinion on the optimum setting.

So, I suggest to use 0 as no limit or to add option to let our users edit the title as much they want.

To which he is answered by Wayne, [ one of the main people there ]:

Set it to a very high number.
One can easily set the “Time Limit on Editing of Thread Title”. Any reading of their copious manuals will show the answers.

Not that I would use vBull now. Probably XenForo. Like LibreOffice from OpenOffice once Larry took it over inadvertently, XenForo emerged from dissidents from the party line.

Interesting. I had no idea that the inner and outer titles were separate entities. I also didn’t notice a Go Advanced when I tried to edit an OP in the past, I thought that only came up with Quick Reply. I’m going to start a test thread to follow the instructions above to amend the inner title.

I can’t speak for all of the mods, but if someone whiffs the title in their thread in any of the forums that I moderate, I’m happy to fix the typo for them. Just report the post.

The thread is from 2010, and is referring to vBulletin 4. This forum uses vBulletin 3.

I’m not saying it’s not possible that there is an option to change things, but your cite doesn’t show it. And I will note that the admins here are hesitant to change anything from the defaults unless they absolutely have to.

Oh for God’s Sake…
vBulletin 3.8 Support & Troubleshooting ---- From 2014

Q/ Hi l want to change Time Limit on Editing of Thread Title => 0

A/ That is in AdminCP > Settings > Options > Message Posting & Editing > Time Limit on Editing of Thread Title & Time Limit on Editing Posts
How difficult is it to look up this stuff ? I could do that even if I’d never heard of a software.
And I’m rather more familiar with the 3.x series than 4 or 5.
I don’t know what you mean by hesitant and defaults. Hesitant sounds like ‘…Always keep a-hold of Nurse, For fear of finding something worse’, whilst defaults are just what one sets them to be.
Altering a setting won’t blow up the engines.

Does anyone know why admin is reluctant to upgrade to the latest version of the board software? Does it break certain settings or is it just that it’s time-consuming and a pain? Not that I have a problem with the software as it is, I just thought there might be greater security against spammers and socks in the upgrade.

Actually, when they did an evaluation several years ago, the newer versions were found to be more vulnerable, which is why we stuck with the older version.

The powers that be do re-evaluate these things from time to time, so we may end up changing to a newer version at some point. It’s not as simple as installing the new software and clicking “upgrade” though. It requires a lot of work.

All I did was tell you that your cite was bad. I didn’t look anything up because (1) you already indicated it was really hard for you to find even that first cite, and (2) I’d already allowed for the fact that maybe you were right.

Point is, even if there is such an option, it’s not going to be changed. The way the software works currently, you cannot change the title of a thread. The tech people are not going to come in and change anything unless they absolutely have to.

That’s what “hesitant” means.

I wholly agree. I too stuck with 3.X. Plus 4 ( and no doubt 5 ) suck big-time visually.
And they greedily altered the licensing.

The cite was fine.

I said no such thing in any shape or form*. Finding cites for popular software is absurdly easy.

Altering a setting is not changing anything: if you set your page-view to 100 instead of 40 it merely alters your view and can be instantly reversed; if you add a modification or modify code that changes stuff more.

However I think it is entirely up to them how they conduct this place, they are under no obligation to alter anything. Conservatism is good when it comes to ancient institutions.
Still, when I consider the apex of the WWW was around 2008, before Mobile View and Web 3.0, and that hosting is now very cheap comparatively alongside great improvements in server software ( such as Apache and Nginx ) leading to no great need to babysit sites any more, I am comfortable with no essential change, yet as far as common settings are concerned — such as say the 2-minute wait — it might be better not to still party as if it’s 1999.