Is there a way to fix men?

Several of them. There’s the surgical method, but that gets more expensive, and less effective, as they age. Or you could put a rubber band between their scrotum and everything else when they’re young. I understand the offensive items turn black and fall off.

ETA: That doesn’t seem to be the question, is it? :frowning:

I think you mean “of children murdered” - not “of children murdered by a parent”.

The cite says:

Fuck no! A statistic that I won’t look back up to cite, since Cat Fight’s bears sound credibility.

Meaningless, since men are more likely to be arrested, investigated and/or convicted for a crime., And it’s a common practice when a woman commits a crime to find a male relative/SO who will make a false confession and take the fall. Then there are examples like domestic violence; a while back the feminists pushed for laws that would require the cops to arrest the perpetrator regardless of whether or not the victim wanted them to; the theory was that the cops were covering for male violence. Instead, the result was a lot of women being arrested for domestic violence, because the cops had been refusing to arrest women all over the country for it. My favorite attempt to explain this away was the claim that men were hitting and stabbing and shooting themselves to make women look bad.

How interesting that you lump in rape and child molestation with porn and strip clubs. You aren’t arguing that men are evil here; you are arguing that Sex Is Bad.

And you leave out the torture and mutilation of children, which is an activity dominated by women.

Actually, women as much or more perform genital mutilation on their younger relatives. As for why gangs of women don’t act like gangs of men, that’s because women don’t form gangs at all. They lack the male instinct to organize **. That doesn’t stop women from being exceedingly brutal and pro violence however. And of those men you sneer at, how many are doing those awful things because their mother or wife told them to ?

** They CAN organize of course, but it’s learned not instinctive. You end up with female clubs and pressure groups and such; not impromptu groups like gangs.

Historically, male infanticide was the norm, and female infanticide was rare. The past was not exactly known for a high quality of life.

Yes, that’s right. Declare war on men, and chemically mutilate them. That couldn’t POSSIBLY provoke a backlash.

A woman who tries to be ladylike, but gets it wrong, may have problems being assertive. A man who makes mistakes trying to be a real man is apt to fail more spectacularly–such men typically confuse strength with unjust aggression and may do anything from cutting off other drivers in traffic, all the way up to brawling, raping, and killing. I don’t know what the answer is, but I do know it isn’t getting rid of manliness, because the world needs manly virtues like strength and courage every bit as much as it needs feminine ones like tenderness and compassion.

I think my wife took mine.

Honey? :smiley:

If women were actually tough, this wouldn’t obstruct them from achieving their aims.

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Men commit more violent crimes than women by an enormous margin (see here or here).

Meaningless, since men are more likely to be arrested, investigated and/or convicted for a crime., And it’s a common practice when a woman commits a crime to find a male relative/SO who will make a false confession and take the fall. Then there are examples like domestic violence; a while back the feminists pushed for laws that would require the cops to arrest the perpetrator regardless of whether or not the victim wanted them to; the theory was that the cops were covering for male violence. Instead, the result was a lot of women being arrested for domestic violence, because the cops had been refusing to arrest women all over the country for it. My favorite attempt to explain this away was the claim that men were hitting and stabbing and shooting themselves to make women look bad.
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Then we can also mention rape and molestation, forced incest, assault, domestic abuse, and the fact men are the reason prostitution, sex trafficking (both children and adults), pornography, strip clubs, etc. exist. Desperate people will do what they must to survive, but at root men are the buyers. If men weren’t so sick in the head there would be no market, e.g. impoverished men whore their bodies for money and drugs – but to other men, not women. Ditto gay porn.

How interesting that you lump in rape and child molestation with porn and strip clubs. You aren’t arguing that men are evil here; you are arguing that Sex Is Bad.
Quote from Der Th…whatever his name is…

Is he a real Human Being?

He hates women, governments, children, rules, democracy, hope, love, (his job) hehehe…

Have lurked at every single post you’ve made.

Though I agree with you about many things…Good Lord, Der, you’re an effin tool when it comes to females.

Who has denied your advances over the years?

You mean statistically speaking they are more prone to do Bad Things™. They aren’t inherently worse. (“Prone” might not be the best word.)

I don’t like fighting - I literally wouldn’t hurt a fly*. I refuse. Clearly the men who aren’t doing Bad Things™ are being ignored. Do we get to suffer as well, in this “Male Correction Scenario”(MCS for short) of yours?

This thread doesn’t belong in Great Debates. The OP only asks if there is a way to fix men, not if we actually need to. Which sounds like IMHO. **

~S.P.I.~

*I talk to insects and flowers when I have the time.
**I may be misunderstanding the purpose behind Great Debates. If so, please enlighten me.

(Unrelated: How do you use superscript in a post?)

Moderator’s Note: Please leave the personal attacks out of Great Debates.

E = mc**[sup]2[**/sup] → E = mc[sup]2[/sup]

Also a more universal solution is to use the unicode superscript characters ⁰ ¹ ² ³ ⁴ ⁵ ⁶ ⁷ ⁸ ⁹

e=mc[sup]2[/sup] <- [sup] tag vs unicode -> e=mc²

Unicode survives cutting and pasting as superscript. In windows, you can look up characters with the included character map tool. Just open it up, click advanced, then pick group Unicode sub-range, pick arial ms Unicode from the drop down menu, pick super/sub script from the menu that appears.

Of course I’m ♂ so this advice is tainted with pure evil.

Also available in subscript! ₀ ₁ ₂ ₃ ₄ ₅ ₆ ₇ ₈ ₉

Thank you both supremely!

These are unrelated. Just becuase more men get caught committing crimes doesn’t necessarily mean more men have bad thoughts.

You say all this like it’s a bad thing.

I just keep hoping that some day women can have strength and courage too. Today’s women are so timid and shy.

Otis Redding sang about tenderness. It never did catch on though.

Zoe Heh, male on female sexism would end the moment women stop putting up with it. I don’t’ see that today’s women are any more timid and shy than any other time period’s.
I’m gonna have to do it:

CITE?

Ah, because I don’t go along with the idea that women are superior beings and men are vile scum I must be a woman hater who has been turned down by women which has apparently twisted me into something that isn’t a “real human being”. That’s your argument?

I hate hope and democracy? What next, are you going to accuse me of eating puppies?

I’m also ♂ and don’t need fixing as the OP so delightfully puts it. At first glance I thought he was advocating having us ♂ taken to the veterinary surgeon to have our tripes removed.

The vet if she was a ♀ would doubtless refuse having much need of our manly bodies and Greek Godlike physique.

…So if there wasn’t a market, desperate people would no longer be able to do what they must to survive, and therefore would not survive? :confused:

You should try them some time, they taste like infants.

Also, the minimum size for infants tends to be about seven pounds - too much for one, and not enough for two. Puppies are marketed more with convenience sizing in mind.