:dubious: You know, the violent LW radicalism of the '60s and '70s was mentioned in the OP.
Would you a like Moderator to move this to whatever thread you meant to post this in(perhaps it was in The BBQ Pit, considering the level and tone), because you don’t seem to be responding to anything even remotely said in this one.
Your call. I think it responds in level and tone to the poster I quoted, without violating any rules. DT equates right wing terrorists with mainstream conservatives. I give the statement the mocking it richly deserves.
For that matter, I think it responds in level and tone to the OP. The whole thread is ridiculous and over the top. A coup d’etat, in this country? Seriously? By Scary Right Wingers?
I think Oakminster was saying that if anyone tried to confiscate your dads’s guns, he’d insist that he lost them all- or am I being whooshed here?
To take the OP’s title question at face value: No. The current right-wing discontent is 80% populist grumbling and 20% cynical demagoguery (adjust percentages as you see fit). The power elite have no real reason to overthrow the system, and that includes all the pundits who decry the same status quo that is making them rich.
Agreed. That’s ridiculous and not going to happen.
However, your “the left is just as violent as the right” position isn’t borne out by facts. Sure, there might have been violent leftist organizations in the 60’s and 70’s but those days are long gone. These days the only voices calling for violent action against the government are on the right. And going beyond the inflammatory rhetoric, the only acts of partisan violence committed in recent years have been committed by the right. What action by radical leftists is comparable to the Murrah Building bombing? The Weather Underground is dead and gone, but the militia movement is still very much alive.
“Minor.” I think that’s the first time I’ve heard it called that.
None whatsoever.
Peta is right wing?
You refer to Smedley Darlington Butler “Old Gimlet Eye.” A true hero, by anyone’s measure. A soldier’s soldier. I think he saw about 100 different battles in six or seven wars, winning the Medal of Honor twice. He was asked to lead the coup, but turned the conspirators in, for which will loyalty and bravery he was basically fucked, as the conspirators were pretty powerful individuals.
Not the best moment for the right, trying to pull that shit. Not the best moment for the left, in terms of hanging out the guy to dry who saved the day.
A pretty good moment for an individual of conscience.
Anyway, no, I don’t think a military coup will be attempted, and I don’t see what the age of the listeners has to do with anything. I would guess that listeners tend to be past retirement age, because the show is on during the day when younger folks are working.
Well, ok, but… assuming someone hates the healthcare bill enough to contemplate terrorism, what do they do?
An anti-abortionist can go after an abortion doctor. If you hate fur you can throw blood on on people wearing fur coats. You can try to release zoo, or lab animals.
But who do you shoot if you don’t like health care reform?
Won’t happen, because like many extremists the Tea Baggers will turn their hatred on the Republican representatives who betrayed them by not stopping socialism.
Or. with HCR some of these clowns might be able to get the mental health treatment they so clearly need.
Yeah? Then I guess the folks at the WTO Protest in Seattle (1999) were right wingers?
How about the United Freedom Front, which wiki seems to think was active in the '70s and '80s?
Or is this March 6, 2008 bombing likely to be a right winger?
Should I just assume ALF doesn’t count, either?
What about those of us who both support ObamaCare and are Life Members of the NRA? Who are we supposed to shoot?
Well, both of you could probably find some sort of team skeet event…
Let me know when that gets determined.
Let me check my rulebook. Ah yes, it says right here that you’re supposed to shoot yourself.
That’s what I was afraid of. :smack:
That’s in the bill. The Obamacare death panels will provide the names.
I don’t think there will be a coup or a revolution, but I would not be surprised if there is some sort of Constitutional crisis. Conservative states will fight UHC tooth and nail and try and get the SC to rule that it or the process to put it in place is unconstitutional. The right does not seem willing to accept defeat with grace lately. I could see riots that result in calling out the National Guard and the Governors not willing to go along. Maybe the National Guard of one state will have to go into another and face armed conflict. A Kent State situation could set off a maelstrom.
:rolleyes:
You’ll see Russian and Cuban paratroopers in Calumet, Colorado before that happens.
Ten states are planning to sue.
Most of those states, BTW, are near the bottom of the United States Health Foundation’s health rankings.
Typical; your position is indefensible, so you completely distort what I said into a strawman. I didn’t say anything about the left being perfect, or never being violent, and you know it.
Ah, again with the attempt to compare fringe groups with zero support from the mainstream left, much less the Democrats, to right wing violence and threats of it that has support in Congress; not to mention all over the right wing media machine.
Oh, please. The mainstream, the Republican leadership has been encouraging and excusing the fanatics for decades. They pretty much ARE the mainstream, now; that’s why so many people have left the Republicans. “Someone should kill Clinton” and “someone should kill Obama” weren’t and aren’t fringe attitudes among the Right in this country. When someone kills a doctor for providing abortions, I hear plenty of cheers from right wingers and I don’t even frequent right wing sites.
Unlikely at this point, but hardly as crazy as you make it out to be with the military packed with right wingers and constantly bombarded with right wing propaganda. “It can’t happen here” isn’t much of an argument; America is not magically immune to such things. America has been sliding towards a right wing dictatorship for much of my life; if Bush had been more competent and more focused on domestic policy he could have pulled it off and set himself up as President For Life.
Cite?
Actually, Lennon was kind of a prick himself.