I suggest the OP bitch and moan about the mods. I don’t think anyone has tried that one yet, might be nice to see new ground tread for once.
I know some people seem to hate the following but as far as I can tell, it’s not against any rules anywhere since Lynn’s rules in The Pit were rescinded/unstickied and it’s certainly not against the rules in ATMB and I just gotta.
Ambushed–who posts multiple two-billion word long posts because someone used a word or two he didn’t like the nuances of…three weeks after the word was used…and hasn’t found one single sympathetic poster who agrees with him after all that wordage…is ATMBing Tomndebb and Marley? At the same time?
I’m pulling up a goddamned lawnchair, cracking open a beer, getting some popcorn and settling in to watch the fireworks. This is gonna be good.
Have to say I agree with statsman’s paraphrase of ambushed’s mini-rant.
To be honest I don’t think I even got a pat on the head out of all that. 
Well, that answers the question of whether or not he realized he should put it away.
Nuke them from orbit.
It’s the only way to be sure.
I demand a rule be made that when people make a mysterious complain about an unnamed moderator, such moderator cannot come in post #2 and out himself. It totally ruins the suspense.
[Carly Simon]“And I bet you think this bitch is about you, don’t you, don’t you, don’t you?”[/Carly Simon]
Quiet there. Remember not everyone knows I am a mod’s sock.
ambushed, you have a few intelligent things to say. However, the culture around here values tone over content, so if you want your content to be acknowledged, the simple, though not entirely just, truth is that you must learn to conform your tone to the received Doper style. There’s no alternative: you can’t chest pound your way into the dialogue. You have to sniff a few butts and lower your gaze.
And no, there is essentially no recourse for biased moderation. Moderators are effectively self-policed; only the most egregious moderator transgressions have ever been addressed by a third party. Besides those extremely rare exceptions (I am only personally aware of two such instances), the moderator in question is allowed to choose whether to reconsider his opinion or not. At least that’s all that is ever seen of whatever backroom procedure that follows complaints against moderators. It’s an extremely opaque process.
And human being, as you point out, human, the likelihood of a monitor taking a poster’s side against another monitor is unlikely enough to be discountable as a possibility. As far as wagons go, these tend to remain fixed to a circular path.
In addition to that, mods are often given an artificial impression of the general poster consensus of their actions, because the usual brown-nosers are drawn to any thread about moderators like flies to shit. The obsequy in such threads can be physically revolting, but most mods have little trouble getting it down.
So take a break, ambushed, and come back when you’re ready keep to your place.
You never seem to tire of saying this, but I’m not seeing it.
I’m just saying, that it’s not going to get any less untrue just because you repeat it a lot.
You could put it that way. Or you could say you’re expected to use a little politeness, and that if you show off a superior attitude, it’s going to offend people. That’s true in any form of communication. That’s been the problem for ambushed. The issue with orcenio was not the tone ambushed used, it was that he was condescending and insulted him repeatedly. In other posts, tone has been a problem. Those posts showed the same attitude but were a little more subtle. They expressed the same view of his reading audience.
Particularly when there’s no bias in the first place.
This gets more poignant with each retelling. You’re only one player short of a Passion Play, provided you gents can ever agree on who’ll take center cross.
Is that what he’s saying? I disagree. We value both.
(Thanks for quoting the germane part.)
lissener said:
Well, first you have to establish there is biased moderation. Of course, learning the rules is a good way to realize most complaints about moderation are by people thinking they should be allowed to do things their way regardless of the rules.
That’s funny, I was going to say that the mods are often given an artificial impression of the general poster dissent with their actions, becuase the usual bitch-n-moaners are drawn to any thread about moderators like flies to shit.
Ed, not sure if you are reading this but, based on threads I see in ATMB, this is a feature people would probably pay for.
The Straight Dope. Fighting poor tone since 2010. It might take a lot longer than we think.
(and that’s even before we start to work on poor muscle tone)
I’ve had my complaints with moderation, and certain moderators, but I’ve also noticed two things.
In general, the moderation is pretty good.
I see much worse moderation when it is my ox being gored.
I’m still not sure why my OP about declawing cats in my moving SUV while I was talking on my cellphone and then throwing the cats at fat people didn’t go over well. What’s with the SDMB always worrying about tone over substance?
Fascists.
If I had to make a guess, the “tone” that lissener is implying is that you must pay deference to the mutual brilliance of everyone participating in a discussion even when you KNOW most of them are idiots. I’m sure he feels those chains in many a thread.