I don’t think “hey, I can hit you!” is really a message worth sending.
The message isn’t “hey, I can hit you,” the message is “your behavior is extremely unacceptable.”
This can’t be emphasized enough. Women perpetuate the stereotype that physicality against them is taboo just as much as men - and situations like the one Cluricaun mentioned is precisely why. It’s been a long time since I’ve been in a fight - not since my peers and I grew up enough to become strong enough to do significant damage to each other if inclined.
If anything it seems that “female aggression” (:rolleyes: offenderatti, fuck off) seems to involve a lot more buildup, lots of screaming, space invasion, name-calling and shoving - be it to other women or towards a male. When the disagreement is between two guys it’s very rarely ambiguous whether violence will ensue and if it will, it tends to begin promptly.
But lets be honest, ladies. Do you really want some guy to piledrive you for bumping your shoulder in the club?
To the mod.
I prefer what I originally intended. Delete one “hitting” please.
Men and woman have a way of dealing with unacceptable behavior. It’s called reason, and it’s why we don’t sleep in trees or eat carrion anymore.
Errors in their ways? Like . . . not subjugating themselves to a thing that prefers violence to reason? Like expecting the men around them to treat them like thinking people and not livestock?
Had you endorsed the same practice for selfish and disrespectful sons, you would at least be consistent in your opinion. Since you didn’t, your opinion smacks of misogyny. But, at least you don’t have the courage of your convictions, since that would require that you be willing to take what you’re so eager to see dished out.
You ever see two women get into a fistfight? They almost always have to be pulled apart because one woman will mercilessly pummel and yank the hair out of the other because she doesn’t realize the consequences of her violent behavior. Men have a much better understanding of how bad you can hurt someone or how bad you can be hurt, so the smart man will try and avoid actions that increase that possibility. Women stick their chins out precisely because they have no concept of the consequences because they’re never threatened with any.
And hitting the person is the only way to express that?
Had you endorsed the same practice for selfish and disrespectful sons, you would at least be consistent in your opinion. Since you didn’t, your opinion smacks of misogyny. But, at least you don’t have the courage of your convictions, since that would require that you be willing to take what you’re so eager to see dished out.
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Such practice doesn’t need to be endorsed because it already occurs (at least in my house it did).
I don’t think MOIDALIZE’s insinuation was that it should be okay to slap females - and not men; rather that it shouldn’t be unilaterally forbidden.
But if you want to hysterically overreact and scream “EE! A SEXIST! A THING!” instead, that’s cool too.
My wife gives me little punches in the shoulder sometimes, or kicks under the table if she thinks I’m being a dick. Does that mean I should be able to lay her out?
Do you know that a lot of batterers use trivial physical contact initiated by the woman (a “push,” a percived “slap”) as justifications to beat the shit out of women? They often try to provoke something just say they can say “she hit me first.”
I never said it was the only way, but it is a way, a way that could be used sparingly. Not once did I advocate striking anything that angers you to any degree.
Thank you
Self-defense–or the defense of someone else who can’t defend themselves–is what I view as the proper occasion for physical violence. You don’t hit people–whether they are male or female–for any other reason.
To avoid getting into an endless debate about loopholes.
Telperien
Self-defense–or the defense of someone else who can’t defend themselves–is what I view as the proper occasion for physical violence. You don’t hit people–whether they are male or female–for any other reason.
That’s certainly a valid view.
Dr. Phil obviously doesn’t frequent this board.
Equal rights, equal responsibilities, one can hit a woman under the same circumstances that one can hit a man, otherwise you’re advocating a double standard based on gender.
This is totally fictional, it’s from a movie, but the way that Ryan Philippe reacts in this opening scene from Way of the Gun doesn’t seem to exactly be over-reacting.
Click the first linkin this, because that scene is a littany of Sarah Silverman saying a great deal of NSFW language.
I think I’d have to agree with this, with the caveat that as a man, if you hit a woman who deserves it you will probably still be arrested, and no, that’s not right.
It’s not?
How would you word the statute that would legalize hitting a woman “if she deserves it?”