You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Most forums have multiple mods, so that in general this means that each report has been seen by several mods. If no action is taken, it usually means that NONE of the forum mods has found it needs any.
Now, we’re human, and also every once in a while there may be some gaps in coverage due to real-life issues. Every once in a while something may slip through the cracks. But almost always the lack of action means that the forum mods decided no action was necessary.
If you think something is important enough, and no action has been taken, then PM or email one or more of the forum mods if you want an explanation.
At least in GQ, there are too many reports to make it practical to send individual PMs explaining each and every case where we have not taken action. Even the “report” system that’s been proposed would require additional time. I usually only send a PM in cases in which it’s a close call, or in which a poster has misinterpreted the rule.
There is a name for the kind of action that GIGO did.
It’s something like a “Junior Mod”, but I don’t think that’s it. The name means someone who is not a mod, but tells other people what they can and can’t do just as if they were a mod.
I got told not to do that once and I have tried not to do it again. But, I see other people doing this and it puzzles me because sometime a moderator will step in and tell that person to, “Knock it off!”
But other times, the mods seem to let it slide. The reason may be that no one ever brought this behavior to the attention of a moderator. I’m not sure.
But I’d like to know what the policy is and how often moderators take action for this and how often they let it slide. In other words, I’d like to know if it is something that is up to the discretion of the moderators or is it something they take seriously and want people to report this kind of behavior?
By the way, if I was you, I would definitely consider that GIGObuster did insult you and it wasn’t just a tiny insult. My opinion doesn’t really count for much. But for what it’s worth, I would have expected a moderator to have intervened.
Posters often answer questions in ways that look like “Jr Modding” in this forum, since it’s specifically about discussing what’s going on with the board and providing community and moderator feedback. Many of the forums on this board have subtle points about what you can and can’t do. Too many joke answers in GQ is discouraged but it’s ok in MPSIMS, for example. Calling someone a troll is forbidden everywhere on the board but not in the Pit. So, sometimes it’s important to know what forum you’re in to know what’s ok and what’s not.
Yes. Very good points. But I’ve never had a problem with what people have said in this forum.
But thanks for directing my attention to those points.
If you think of a debate as an activity, governed by rules of conduct, you can see it from another POV, which may or may not help.
Imagine the Mods are like Umpires, or Refs, and during the game you see something that seems like an obvious breach of the rules, but it might not be, you decide rather than privately tell the Ump, you shout out, “Hey! Was that a foul or not? Cause it certainly seems like a foul”. Everybody, including the Ump and the other players, including the person who may or may not have stepped out of bounds, even the spectators, can all discuss it, and listen to somebody finally make a call, and explain why they made the call.
The person who may or may not have fouled can plead their case, everyone learns something, and in the case where it was not a foul, the person who thought it was gets a lesson as well.
If you look at it as a grade school snitch being mad about somebody else getting away with something, and then “tattling” to the teacher (a serious breach of playground social rules), it might seem like a different experience.
In any case I looked up the damn rules before doing anything, and followed what they said. That it “could” appear like a drunk asshole showing up at a family wedding, well, what the fuck is that about?
Really? I wasn’t aware of that. Thanks for letting me know.
FWIW, I read your post as “Humongous error.” I’ve defended Sam on this board and will continue to do so, but I thought your remark was fine, again FWIW.
FXMastermind: Speaking as a poster and speaking generally, if somebody reports 3 similar infractions and they are not acted on, methinks they should seriously consider recalibration. That’s one guideline. While I don’t use the report button too often, I’ll note it does have a handy comment feature, good for expressing doubts and wisecracks. Reporting spammers gives me great joy. As for other posters, meh.
There’s also the pit option. Constructive low intensity pit threads sans outrage aren’t pitched enough here. The pit shouldn’t just be about drama and inanity.
Well, as I said I understand why when I said whopper it came as an insult and that is why I apologized, but I was referring to the big (as in humongous) error a poster had made early.
And English is my second language, so only today I found out that there is indeed a secondary meaning from the main one that many others can the get offended, so I will not do that again, the only comment I can make here is that if you think that it was just an insult you should wonder then how Burger King gets away with their “lies” every day. Or just before the torches and pitchforks are taken to the local restaurant I think one should wonder if it mainly refers to a big or humongous “meh” burger.
Oh, and thanks for that Measure for Measure.
There you go. It wasn’t even an intentional foul, since whopper can mean something else besides a big lie. In this case, “you are already being caught several times with wild whoppers” actually meant he has been caught with wild large hamburgers.
:rolleyes:
That boy? Albert Einstein.
Or a big error as I showed it was in a following post.
FWIW, I only know of two meanings for “whopper” (uncapitalized): something real big, or a real big lie. For the first meaning, the speaker and audience must clearly agree on a category in which the discussed entity exceed size expectations: fish? burgers? jars of pickled pigs feet? Zits? Without such an understanding, the term is meaningless. The second meaning not only is immediately clear, but is the meaning all native speakers will apply to calling a statement a “whopper.”
If you say so, I can believe that as a non-native speaker you didn’t realize that whopper implied deceit, thinking it meant “big false statement.” But it’s difficult to swallow that you intended the meaning of “something real big” in that context.
Well, I’m a native speaker. I checked the dictionary and your characterization is faithful.
And yet… my impression was that whopper could mean something like tall tale, or highly dubious claim. I’m guessing that the word that Gigo was reaching for was “Doozy”, though the dictionary defines that as, “remarkable, wonderful, superior”, without noting generally sarcastic intent.
At any rate, I’ll know to avoid that term, not that I use it much.
Speaking as a poster, not a moderator:
a) Junior mod is the word for the action you are describing.
b) I don’t see anything in that post by GIGObuster that is junior modding. For it to be junior modding, GIGObuster would need to be saying something about the rules of the board, how to act with regards to the rules or whatnot. All he did was tell another poster that his attitude was snotty.
Again, not a mod, but my impression is that, like everything else that is open to interpretation, there is a [del]bit[/del] huge heap of discretion on the part of moderators as to how to respond. Was the comment genuinely helpful, or intended to slap down the other person? Was the explanation a recital of the rules with a suggestion to get informed, or a threat that action will be taken? What was the intent of the remark, and what was the context?
And, as with everything else, moderators don’t read everything, and don’t see everything. If you see something that looks like a rules violation and you don’t see it moderated, report the post so the mods are aware of it. You can even include a note or question to the mods to clarify for your understanding. Then if they decide it is not a rules infraction, they might be more willing to PM you a reply since you specifically asked for info. YMMV.
Sorry to bring this back up, but Gigo may have been reaching for the word howler, “A very funny mistake, esp in something written or spoken rather solemnly; also, a serious and obvious mistake”, or “a mistake, especially an embarrassing one in speech or writing, that evokes laughter; a very humorous mistake or a funny blunder”, or even better, “(informal) a glaring mistake”.
I didn’t understand that so thanks for explaining it.
And here I thought all that an Irishman would do is get drunk and punch me in the face.
Well, I learned something new today. Thank you .
Yeah, that makes sense.
As long as you remove all context, like the actual sentence.
I say the Mod make the right call on this one, no matter what rationalizations are used to avoid the fact.
Well Gigo apologized, which deserves acknowledgement. And the sentence, “BTW Sam, you have already being caught several times with honking howlers, so cut it with your self righteousness,” wouldn’t receive attention from anyone.
Though part of the reason I posted this was that I was embarrassed and puzzled to have misread it the first time. FTR, though I’ll repeat that Sam typically provides solid content, albeit with a few conceptual or factual missteps that I’ve jumped on in the past. Hey, I’ve posted mistakes too: I try to acknowledge them.
ETA: I’ve also mangled the meaning of bemused.