Not really Bricks. The results did not appear in The Wealth of Nations, as the chart states. However, they appeared in the Economist, which is really quite a reputable publication.
I’m sensing some defensiveness here.
Not really Bricks. The results did not appear in The Wealth of Nations, as the chart states. However, they appeared in the Economist, which is really quite a reputable publication.
I’m sensing some defensiveness here.
Cite? (And please don’t cite the chart itself for the claim; the chart is the source for the false claim about “IQ and the Wealth of Nations.”
Ye’re a hard man. Here are some IQ figures that seem to be not a hoax. I’ll work on a correlation analysis over the weekend, just for you.
As I said above, SAT scores taken from the College Board itself seem to confirm the basic premise of the OP.
In my post above, I took into account the fact that the level of participation across states is different by listing only states whose participation was 50% or more.
I have now done some further analysis to be able to include all the states. (see below for details)
**State Adjusted SAT Voted for Kerry Rank Bush Rank**
Illinois 1008 Kerry 1
Massachusetts 1006 Kerry 2
NewHampshire 1001 Kerry 3
NorthDakota 1000 Bush 4
Minnesota 998 Kerry 5
Connecticut 997 Kerry 6
Washington 992 Kerry 7
NewJersey 989 Kerry 8
Wisconsin 987 Kerry 9
Oregon 984 Kerry 10
Colorado 982 Bush 11
Kansas 980 Bush 12
Missouri 979 Bush 13
Iowa 977 Bush 14
Vermont 977 Kerry 15
Virginia 976 Bush 16
NewYork 974 Kerry 17
Maryland 971 Kerry 18
Michigan 969 Kerry 19
Tennessee 969 Bush 20
Nebraska 965 Bush 21
Alaska 964 Bush 22
RhodeIsland 962 Kerry 23
SouthDakota 961 Bush 24
Delaware 957 Kerry 25
Ohio 957 Bush 26
Pennsylvania 957 Kerry 27
Montana 956 Bush 28
Maine 954 Kerry 29
Arizona 949 Bush 30
NorthCarolina 948 Bush 31
Oklahoma 945 Bush 32
California 944 Kerry 33
Indiana 944 Bush 34
Kentucky 943 Bush 35
Alabama 936 Bush 36
Louisiana 936 Bush 37
Idaho 934 Bush 38
Florida 933 Bush 39
Utah 933 Bush 40
NewMexico 929 Bush 41
Georgia 928 Bush 42
Hawaii 928 Kerry 43
Wyoming 926 Bush 44
Texas 924 Bush 45
Nevada 923 Bush 46
SouthCarolina 923 Bush 47
Arkansas 919 Bush 48
Dist.ofColumb 919 Kerry 49
Mississippi 901 Bush 50
WestVirginia 892 Bush 51
**17 32
Average Rank**
As we can see, the average rank of a Kerry state is 17, while the average rank of a Bush state is 32. Even by inspection, you can clearly see the clustering of Kerry states near the top and the clustering of Bush states near the bottom.
So, the results look very similar to the results in the OP, and these results come from the College Board itself.
Note: For those of you interested how I derived the “adjusted SAT” scores for each state, see below:
I assumed that if p percent of the population take the SAT, that represents the smartest p percent of that state, and from this we can derive a formula of the mean of the entire population, assuming a bell-curve distribution of SAT scores.
The resulting formula for the adjusted mean is
adjusted mean = mean - sigma/p e^(-1/2 [Q^-1(p)]^2) / sqrt(2*pi)
where
p=level of participation
sigma=standard deviation of SAT scores (I assumed about 100)
Q=complementary cdf of a zero-mean unit-variance Gaussian distribution
Of course, one objection might be that the model I used was rather simplistic, but given the available data, there is not much more we can do.
BWAHAHAHA!!
I read the link you provided. At the bottom are several links. One says:
So I clicked on that, and the resulting page says:
So the link you provided me to support your thesis explicitly disavows and contradicts your thesis.
I suspect you’ll make a fine liberal leader. I understand the position of DNC chair may be opening up. Why not apply?
I don’t have any statistical numbers or arbitrary test scores or scientific mumbo-jumbo, but 95% of the people I see driving around with “Bush/Cheney 04” bumper stickers drive like f*ing morons. Either “conservative” is something that applies to driving style as well as economics and politics, or there’s just something broken.
Side note, I didn’t see that many Kerry/Edwards stickers. Maybe Dems don’t wave banners as much?
Side side note, at least half of the people who had “Bush/Cheney 04” stickers also had little American flags mounted on one of their windows. I’m tempted to buy a stack of “Bandwagon Patriot” bumperstickers and start applying them to cars with flags in parking lots.
Side side side note, my grandma actually had an American flag mounted on her window BEFORE 9/11, so maybe not all of them are nuts. Well, not in that way.
Side side side side note, I’m seriously considering purchasing a small Iraqi flag to mount to my car, if I can find someone who makes one. Not the old Iraqi flag, the new one the provisionals came up with that everyone hates. THen we’ll see how many of the American flag wavers even recognize it. Then I’ll beat them senseless with my stack of Bandwagon Patriot bumperstickers.
Bricker, care to comment on the data in my post above?
Sure it’s not a variation of this?
Snopes is our friend.
FTR, none of the Bush voters I know have stuff on their cars.
Is this a response to my data?
Cause if it is, I should remind you that my data comes directly from the College Board itself.
So does accessing the site make it something of an intelligence test? (Sorry, couldn’t resist the dig).
Given that your data purports to correlate SAT scores to IQ, I’d be curious to see how SAT scores track with socioeconomic status.
Quite frankly, I don’t understand the formula you used for adjusted SAT; my expertise is not in statistics.
But I did get a 1450 on my own SATs.
Regardless of the data, if you believe that small differences in averages cannot be significant, better take that remedial stats course yourself.
I thought that our official stance was fthat the republicans were not dumb, but evil. Why didn’t anyone copy me on the memo?
Fatheaded and evil, Waverly. What e-mail address are you using? I sent it to everyone on the list.
This is a bit silly.
The data Polerius gave is interesting. I appreciate the analysis.
Let’s not forget that when a state goes to a candidate, it does not mean the entire state voted that way. That tends to weaken the argument… I think. (Math isn’t on my mind right now.)
I sent a friend of mine that link. She does IQ testing for a living, and spotted the hoax immediately. She said:
The difference is that if low average IQ is due to an inferior gene-pool, then it’s something you’re stuck with; but if it’s due to a poor educational system, then it’s something you can do something about. In fact, it’s one of the few social problems that really can be solved by throwing money at it. Just look at the Soviet Union. They didn’t have much, but they had near 100% literacy. Better than we’ve got even now.
Hey, I’ve got a good idea - let’s do the correlation game with murder rates. Let’s list the states with the highest murder rates, and see which ones voted for Kerry.
From that, we can conclude that Kerry voters are murderers!
Repeat after me: Correlation does not imply causation.
Irrelevant. Correlation does imply amusement!
Well on this site 9 of the 10 states with the higest murder rates are red states. Five of the 10 states with the lowest murder rate are blue states.