Yeah, we’ve seen this film before. But, does Theresa May finally resign as UK Prime Minister after the likely debacle for the Conservatives in the European elections tomorrow as well as a complete mutiny after her pathetic 4th turn to try to get the EU withdrawal bill through the House of Commons?
I have no idea if this will mean a general election or else Boris gets elected Tory leader and fails worse than May.
American born prime minister to go with American Duchess/Princess?
Gove may well get the job.
Andrea Leadsom quits government as Leader of the House. May resigns on Sunday or before.
I forgot to address this bit. The results aren’t released until the evening of Sunday May 26th after the last polling station has closed. So we’ll be burdened with May at least until then.
FFS! Hahaha I always take the Friday off work after an election to watch the results come in, and have done so this time. Obviously I’ve completely forgotten that the Euro elections are on a different timetable. Oh well, Monday is a Bank Holiday anyway, so I guess it’s not that bad. Beer and crisps on a Sunday night instead of tomorrow…
Why not double-dip? 
Not triggering Brexit before the European election was a really bad move, but she wasn’t forced out over that. I don’t think it matters how badly the Conservatives do in the European election as the UK is leaving soon.
There was a “mutiny” in the Conservative Party but the rules make it difficult to kick her out. I think there will be a hard Brexit, a very angry Ireland and Northern Ireland, a very angry Scotland, and then she will step down. Boris Johnson will probably be the next Prime Minister, although maybe he’ll realize he has to deal with the disaster of a hard Brexit. (Gove is smarter, but has the charisma of a wet paper bag. I was really unimpressed hearing him stab Johnson in the back.)
It will be interesting to see who the left votes for. Corbyn? After Brexit, I hope the answer is no. Sadly, he’s apparently made of charisma.
There’s been something I’ve been wondering for a while now, and this seems like the perfect thread to ask it in.
From my understanding, Theresa May is being heavily criticized for not being able to get a Brexit deal passed. But from everything I read there is absolutely NO deal that will get a majority of Parliamentary votes. Alternative plans were put forth and couldn’t get a majority either.
Why is May getting the brunt of the anger and criticism over not being able to submit a passible deal, when that very task seems to be utterly impossible?
Because acknowleding the impossiblity of the task would require Brexiters to admit that the vision of Brexit that they sold to the voters was a lie from the get-go.
May held a snap election in an effort to get more leverage, but lost seats, and much of that was her fault. She didn’t entirely fail… the Conservatives are still the largest party, but are in a minority position and have to kiss up to an extremely conservative, Northern Ireland Protestant party. Said party is not in favor of a “hard border” with Ireland.
I don’t know if May could have pulled that off if she had not bothered with the snap election. I suspect not, but it’s easy for Brexiteers to say “if only”…
A big problem stems from the fact that the majority of the public voted leave and a majority of the MP’s are remain. That fundamental fact colours all of this. The vast majority of MP’s were returned by parties with a manifesto commitment to deliver Brexit whilst all the while the majority of sitting MP’s hold no love for it. Why would we be surprised that there are splits left right and centre? If you have the power to frustrate a process that you think leads to a bad outcome…why not exercise it?
You are right that there is no deal that will command a majority. None of the indicative votes show a workable majority in favour.
A change to any other Leader or flavour of Government will not make a jot of difference either. Remember that Corbyn wants to leave as well and always has done even though labour voters (in general) lean “remain”.
The splits in the tories will be as nothing compared to a Labour party in power. A snap election will solve nothing.
What will be interesting is if the EU elections show a majority, again, for leave parties. How will that be spun?
Interesting times. I’m no brexiteer, I was always for remaining in the EU and for complete reformation but the UK never had a leader with the balls to do so. I actually may vote for a brexit party or an EU reformation candidate today to ensure that we do have a disruptive influence in there when the inevitable non-brexit happens.
This is the one point that very few politicians seem willing to address.
If the task is impossible, at what point did it become impossible? why were the people not informed that such a threshold was being crossed? why were they not given the option of deciding on whether to cross it? who was holding the ball at that time? was that point not noted because of incompetence or ignored in favour of a political agenda?
they need to hold a revote… i doubt it would pass this time
Even if May resigns in the next few days, there still has to be a Tory leadership contest and she will stay in office until it’s decided. That may only be some time in July.
By what sort of a majority would “remain” need to win in order for the issue to be solved? And why would anyone on either side have confidence that it settled the matter?
id say at least 60 percent and just to make sure id write in its binding for 2-5 years
Well, if there’s one thing the UK has learned from this, is never to hold a binding referendum on anything ever again.
I’d be very, very surprised if you got over 60% in favour of remain.
Plus, without a major change in law this next referendum could only be “binding” to the same degree as the previous one. i.e. all sides promised to abide by the result.
The different there, of course, is that for a ‘remain’ to occur all parliament needs to do it, well, nothing.
And while ‘nothing’ will also get them a Brexit…it won’t get them an advantageous one. And they sure don’t want that. The recession it’s likely to cause will cost most of them their jobs the next time they need to face the voters.