Is this rape?

But how can it be consent if you don’t want to ?
Not in the legal sense of consent I mean. I’m sure there’s no legal way to go at it, at least not in a practical sense, it would be too easy to argue “I said yes but I meant no” in court. But then, what’s ethical and what’s legal aren’t the same. Just because it’s legal doesn’t make something right (and vice versa).

The fact that the coercer didn’t use bodily harm but emotional or chemical means as his leverage for coercion doesn’t change the fact that coercion happened. In a sense it could even be worse, in that… well… **you **did say yes, didn’t you ? It’s all your fault, **you **made the choice, **you **shouldn’t have drunk that much, you’ve got all the guilt etc… whereas you can rationalize a gunpoint rape by not having any choice in the matter, other than dying that is.

And we do treat roofies incidents as rape, so why not plain ol’ smashed, or clearly-not-100%-mental-strength ? Call it abusing a situation, using someone, manipulation, call it whatever you want, I still contend it’s a shitty thing to do.

Not sure if I’m making a lot of sense. It’s always hard to rationally discuss a gut feeling :/.

EDIT :

That is one fucking great picture :). Thanks for sharing.