Is this true about a misplaced province for Bethsaida?

When I viewed this video on YouTube…

Starting just before 3:50, the presenter makes the claims that:

  1. Historically, John the apostle was born in Bethsaida.

(And, much more importantly…)

2. The individual * who wrote John chapter 12, verse 21 *
placed Bethsaida in Galilee.

From this source:

“It may be possible to identify this site with the village of Bethsaida in Lower Gaulanitis which the tetrarch Herod Philip II raised to the rank of a polis in the year 30/31, and renamed it Julias, in honor of Livia, the wife of Augustus. …”

I was somewhat puzzled, because it seems the northern part of the so-called Holy Land back then was Galilee, all of it.

Can the fine folks here clarify if placing it in Galilee is an error, and whether there is a serious controversy, as the rest of the section seems to suggest?

(Whether it makes sense to insist that John the evangelist hailed from Bethsaida, “historically” is of secondary importance, but I would like comments on that as well.)


  • I say the individual, and specify this verse (among others) because there is plenty of reason IMO, to see the Book of John as multi-authored.

John the Baptist is associated with Bethsaida? News to me. I don’t recall any connection, and a quick internet search turns up nothing except for Jesus getting news of John’s death when he (Jesus) is in Bethsaida.
As for problems about the location of Bethsaida, have a look at the Wikipedia entry on Bethsaida:

John the Apostle, not John the Baptist.

I’m still not on board. I’m aware of no tradition associating John the Apostle with Bethsaida. Wikipedia claims it as his birthplace in the entry on John, but hedges in the entry on Bethsaida. Some webpages assert Bethsaida as his city of birth, but none of them provides any basis for thinking this.

It’s an extrapolation from Mark 1:16-20

and John 1:44:

So, since John says that Andrew and Peter were from Bethsaida, and since Mark says that Jesus met John and James the same place he met Andrew and Peter, it’s understood that John and James are from Bethsaida.

Still a stretch. Like the Wikipedia article on Bethsaida, I’d be hedging my bets by not committing. It certainly doesn’t seem definite enough to base an argument on.

Especially when combining accounts from two different evangelists, especially two known to be not in agreement on other things.

THANK YOU!

I didn’t think it was necessary to distinguish the two.

Let’s focus on the key point. Was the location given wrongly in John 12:21? It’s hard to tell from your quote of more of the article. What is your opinion?

If John the apostle was Jewish and apparently living somewhere in Palestine, probably also born somewhere in Palestine, as opposed to a geographically outside convert, it seems odd that he, as “John the evangelist” would place Bethsaida wrongly.

Maybe not as much as someone born there, or grew up there, or whose story starts as a resident there, but still…